Nevadans?

[gaited horse]

Oh no!  I sure hope it turns out to be nothing! Maybe she was just choking on something.  You are right though, you will know for sure in a couple of days if it is serious.    

These birds were too old to be vaccinated huh?  This stinks so much!!! *no pun intended* 

Boy that Markie is sure a Sweetie!!!  I don't think I've ever heard of such a nice guy!  No wonder you're crazy about 'im.  

Markie is a keeper for sure. Hope she gets better. It almost sounds like what happend to my Cochin cock though. Only we wouldn't move.

 

[aubreynoramarie]

all of my birds were too old. Figures. The showgirls were the only ones who may have been young enough but since they were almost mature I decided that i wouldnt start vaccinating until my next bout of chicks. Sucks but what can ya do. At this point Mark and I are trying to decide on whether or not to have a closed flock, or to cull lil frizz and porkchop. Frizz has still got a runny nose, and it stinks to high heaven which is not a good sign. When i q-tip her nostrils the q-tip smells just awful. I am so glad she is the only bird showing signs of illness. If no one else is sick tomorrow I will know that the right descision will be to cull.

Ugh and on top of that i had to make a vet appointment for Elvis today. He is pooping blood and bleeding rectally. Last night he came into our room and slept by our bed which is very unusual. Im so over all of this!

 

[HighNDryFarm]

for Kim's roo!

Aw man Kim

that stinks about your roo

maybe Pam can cross her fingers for him because it seems to work!

 

[americanvalkyrie]

Okay I am a total genius...

Cleaned up, scrubbed my arms with disinfecting soap, changed my clothes and shoes and....well I went out and inspected everyone one else. Smelled all of their heads...everyone else is fine. No one else is sick. good. Sooooo, I grabbed Porkchop (Young showgirl rooster) and Put him in the pen out front with LIL frizz. Now I know, if he gets sick in the next couple of days, then they must be culled. If he doesnt, then she doesnt have anything contagious. Our roomate Josh said that last week she sneezed on him and got snot on his arm so it could be possible that shes been sick for at least that long. Her head smells and her nose is goopy but that is the only symptoms. She is not gurgling and has not been gasping for air since that one episode over an hour ago. Im gonna go look up things that could be giving her a runny stinky nose. Are there any other symptoms I should be looking for?

This is just speaking from experience... the two most likely things she has are bronchitis or coryza.

Bronchitis: if she has it, they probably all do. It's a virus, so antibiotics don't cure it... but will avoid secondary infections due to lowered immunity. Survival rate is high if you take care of them... antibiotics in the water to ward of secondary infections, yogurt in their food after the antibiotics are done. Keep them warm and dry, and not stressed. You will see more symptoms tomorrow, and they will all be sick within 4 days. They get better within 7 days. Egg production will be off, but will probably return. All mine are now laying, and Cacciatore is starting to put the last layer on her eggs. Chickens can be sick with bronchitis and not have any symptoms other than a little bit of loud breathing. Cacciatore never showed symptoms, but I know from the egg problems that she had it.

Coryza: contagion is high, but not as high as bronchitis. Survival rate is lower than bronchitis. Foul odor is indicative of coryza, but so is facial swelling. This is treatable with Sulmet. It will still run through your flock in a few days, but may take 3 weeks to get over. Culling is your choice, since they can be carriers forever. If they don't get it this time around, they might not get it at all.

Anyway, that's just what I learned from my experience. I really believe my chickens got bronchitis, not coryza, and it can spread like crazy around a neighborhood. But it has a very high survival rate.

I want to be all optimistic and say it could be nothing... but I learned that chickens don't get runny noses unless they're really sick.

I hope she's the only one that gets sick, and everyone gets better soon! Let me know if you want to borrow my chicken health handbook.

 

[HighNDryFarm]

Looks like we need more finger crossing.....on Elvis, is he vaccinated against Parvo? That sounds like Parvo and it's nothing to delay treatment on. The stinky chicken, I don't know. Gasping like that could be gape worm but I don't know if the runny, stinking nose fits that.

all of my birds were too old. Figures. The showgirls were the only ones who may have been young enough but since they were almost mature I decided that i wouldnt start vaccinating until my next bout of chicks. Sucks but what can ya do. At this point Mark and I are trying to decide on whether or not to have a closed flock, or to cull lil frizz and porkchop. Frizz has still got a runny nose, and it stinks to high heaven which is not a good sign. When i q-tip her nostrils the q-tip smells just awful. I am so glad she is the only bird showing signs of illness. If no one else is sick tomorrow I will know that the right descision will be to cull.

Ugh and on top of that i had to make a vet appointment for Elvis today. He is pooping blood and bleeding rectally. Last night he came into our room and slept by our bed which is very unusual. Im so over all of this!

 

[aubreynoramarie]

Yeah that would be great! I assume that out of 27 chickens if no one else gets sick then maybe this is some kind of fluke. Tomorrow ill know for sure. I mean seriously though at least a few other birds will have to get ill too, then ill know for sure. Especially if porkchop gets sick. Did they show any other symptoms? so far Frizz has the discharge from her nostrils and the odor. No swelling or discharge from the eyes. this week we will decide on what to do. I do not want to have to worry about keeping a closed flock, but i also love these girls and do not want to cull them either. A choice must be made. I know what that choice will be...these ARE my pets afterall. however there goes any breeding i was thinking about doing. Im so confused as to why only one bird is sick out of so many....well im off to shower and change my clothes AGAIN and then try to pry nanners out from under the deck, ugh. Then I have to apply ointment to elvis's butt. oh my life sometimes....markie says were just in a constant state of being "tested" lol

 

[aubreynoramarie]

Looks like we need more finger crossing.....on Elvis, is he vaccinated against Parvo? That sounds like Parvo and it's nothing to delay treatment on. The stinky chicken, I don't know. Gasping like that could be gape worm but I don't know if the runny, stinking nose fits that.

yeah hes had all of his vaccines. we used to board him and he was required to get them every year, and we have just kept up on them since then. I actually think it might be an injury because when he poos the inside of his butt comes out and when he was going in the river the other day he may have cut it on a rock. Or he might have hemherrroids internally. either way it sucks and i feel really bad for him.

 

[wolftracks]

I'm not too optomistic about my roo. Hens take off and go broody and bring back chicks. The roos just never come back.

As far as the birds being sick I still can't say enough about Oxine.

Now the dog............I've dealt with Parvo. My first litter of Rotties caught it at the Vet's office. I lost all 9. I went back to giving my own shots and starting them at 3 weeks. Usually with Parvo there is vomiting. Thing is they can go both with a bad case of worms. Have you taken his temperature? You can even feel inside of a rear leg and tell is he is extra hot. Although they can be danerous too, I'm hoping he just needs wormed. Hope you get good news when you take him in.

 

[americanvalkyrie]

Yeah that would be great! I assume that out of 27 chickens if no one else gets sick then maybe this is some kind of fluke. Tomorrow ill know for sure. I mean seriously though at least a few other birds will have to get ill too, then ill know for sure. Especially if porkchop gets sick. Did they show any other symptoms? so far Frizz has the discharge from her nostrils and the odor. No swelling or discharge from the eyes. this week we will decide on what to do. I do not want to have to worry about keeping a closed flock, but i also love these girls and do not want to cull them either. A choice must be made. I know what that choice will be...these ARE my pets afterall. however there goes any breeding i was thinking about doing. Im so confused as to why only one bird is sick out of so many....well im off to shower and change my clothes AGAIN and then try to pry nanners out from under the deck, ugh. Then I have to apply ointment to elvis's butt. oh my life sometimes....markie says were just in a constant state of being "tested" lol

First batch, 6-8 weeks old: The most susceptible chicken got really lethargic, a little bit of sticky breathing, no swelling or odor, but a beak full of mucous. Within 2 days, I noticed gurgling breath from 2 of the 8 others in her group. Those plus 2 others had runny noses. 2 days after that, they seemed to get lots better. A day and a half after that, I walked in and noticed that 3 had facial swelling... one had an eye swollen shut. 4 of them never showed symptoms. We assumed it was coryza and culled them all. None of them had a foul odor.

Second batch, 4 weeks old: 3 days after culling the first batch, I listened to all 13 of them and noticed that 2 had wheezing breath. I immediately quarantined them and gave them Sulmet and Duramycin for two days, disinfecting everything. Two days later, I noticed no symptoms at all. Nobody got any sicker.

Third batch, 1 week old: About a week after the second batch improved, when we figured we were in the clear. One chick was so sick that every breath was a wheeze, and she constantly gasped. Her posture was like a rooster crowing, with the beak up in the air, as she tried to breathe. 4 of the 10 had runny noses and wheezing, and 3 more of them had clicking breath. 3 never showed symptoms. We put them on Sulmet and Duramycin for two days. During the second day of the treatment, the sickest chicks developed runny eyes, but their breathing seemed to improve. The sickest chick almost got culled twice, but I couldn't bring myself to cull my week-old brabanter. We did lots of praying and antibiotics, and she improved each time we decided to "watch and see." It took about a week and a half for everyone to stop showing symptoms. The day after the medicine, I mixed yogurt in everyone's food (they loved it!.) None of those chicks died from being sick, but not long after they got better, one of my silkie chicks flapped down from my hands, fell 18 inches, and died.

Fourth batch, 9-12 month old laying hens: Less than a week after I put medicine in the new chicks' water, I heard a meowing/crying sound from the coop. Barbeque had a nose so snotty that it dripped from her beak, bubbles in her eyes, and breath so loud that she sounded like a baby crying. We put Baytril down her throat, and put Sulmet and Duramycin in the water. We locked the coop for 2 days, so they could only get medicated water. We picked each hen up and listened, and 2 more of the 10 hens had "sticky" breath, but none of them got runny noses. Barbeque's crying turned into just a snotty-sounding breath by noon the next day, and was normal within another day. Egg production dropped from an average of 8 per day, down to 2 per day. The eggs that we recognized as coming from certain hens, like the welsummer, stopped completely... and most of those were from hens that didn't show symptoms. Date of hen medication: May 12th. It's been just over a month, and we're now almost to full production, though the welsummer isn't fully developing her eggs.

Mortality: none except for the ones we culled. Egg production: noticeable, and mostly repaired for the hens. I don't know about the babies, since my health book says the tiny ones are most susceptible to cloaca damage. Duration: one month from start to finish, but about a week to 10 days for each group of chickens. If they were in the same group as a sick chick, then that group was done with the ordeal in about a week. Treatability: easy, now that we know what it is. Stress level: I have less hair now.

Are you working in this area tomorrow? We're going to be out of the house for most of the day, but I can take the book to your work early in the morning. Or I can leave it on my front porch, and you can pick it up whenever you have a chance to swing by.

 

[aubreynoramarie]

thanks. worms is a huge possibility too i suppose with him eating bird crap all the time.

well we pried apart the deck and got nanners. she was sitting on over 20 eggs, that little witch. I put her in a kennel with five eggs that i collected from today but with my luck she wont sit on em or they wont even be fertile.

aaaand i just stuck my hand in cat vomit. UGH I HATE TODAY!