New Job ... Old Trouble ...

[The Chicken Lady]

Thanks for doing the right thing.

The confidentiality regulation sounds ridiculous, especially where patients' health is concerned. There isn't any way you can work around that to explain what happened with the person before, even off the record? It seems like if you were able to do that, your bosses would be more understanding.

 

[Henrietta23]

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Oh boy, that is rough. Since you asked I'll share. I started a new job as a speech therapy assistant for the local school system today. I haven't worked in the field in 18 years. I applied almost on a whim never thinking they'd actually hire me. I had the job before I left the interview. They're that desparate. The problem is 30% of my time must be supervised by a certified speech/language pathologist. The system is short two SLPs at is. There is one other assistant who has a supervisor who's terrific but she won't have time to supervise both of us. None of the other SLPs have any interest in stepping up which means the Director of Special Services will have to force one of them and then they will be resentful of me. Sigh. Trying hard to remain enthusiastic but it's tough without all the pieces in place, you know?
Hang in there. You did what you know was right and you don't need me to tell you that. Just like you are there for the old people, I'm here for the kids.

 

[redhen]

Hi Mangled..i was a CNA for about 15 years... first off...i know its hard to go aganist your new boss..but..really..who cares..its about the patient...and i am sickened that this person was still allowed to work with the elderly after the past incident you metioned...why didnt she get reported to the state back then?..by law..i thought it HAD to be reported with in 24 or maybe 48 hours...i still cant belive that there are places that cover-up abuse!... so, is the cna fired now?..the state will investigate it...and why cant you tell your boss that you knew her at a previous place of work..i know that you cant do that if she was applying for a job there...but, with her already working there...and you just coming in..i think you should be able to say to your boss that you do know her..and there were some abuse questioning in her past place of employment...which now adds substance to these NEW claims of abuse...i dont know..just my thoughts..best of luck..sounds like you will def have your hands full!..

 

[Dar]

i wonder if you had a...."what if" conversation with the DON...

"what if" i knew a past employer that terminated a "certain" person for the same thing....what would you do?....hopefully the DON has a brain in his/her head that they can figure out what you are trying to say without breaking any privacy laws

 

[Verboten]

You definately did the right thing (and know it). The right thing to do is seldom the easy thing to do.

As said above - Is there a way you can hint at their former employment history with your bosses in private (or just the one that seems to dislike you the least - edit: definately the DON)? - the new place might not have cared anyway. You must have been her manager at the old place otherwise it would not be a problem, Right?

Saying something like this perhaps:
I'm sorry that you feel I'm being too hard on ____ , but at a previous facility there were problems with certain employees abusing patients that were not reported - where did she work before she came here again?.
- there should be some way.

Employers have a CYA mentality when it comes to this type of thing (as you know) - when you do the math it just isnt worth it on the bottom line. Perhaps mention that making an example (without using that phrase) of someone who is abusing patients could send signal to others to shape up or ship out (you don't need them anyway do you?) so you might have fewer incidents in the future.

Best of luck to you!

 

[mangled]

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$15,000? Seriously? Pa cranks CNA's out of facility-sponsored courses in a matter of weeks.

Even when I got my certification waaaaaay back in 1993, I went through a facility-sponsored course and was certified in 12 weeks. I remember being so excited to make $6.75 an hour, lol.

I honestly think the trouble is these days, that they crank these 18, 19, 20 year olds out into a nursing home environment to maintain state staffing minimums, which in PA are 14 patients to 1 aide. The CNAs at the facility I'm at now are making a base of $11.85 an hour, with shift differentials and longevity bonuses.

When I worked in Arizona, it was the same thing. Quantity over quality. Warm bodies on the floor, poor quality of care.

It's decent pay for a non-degree career, if you think about it.

Em

 

[debilorrah]

Em, it is logistics I am sure. Here in CA those jobs and Medical Assistants just don't pay unless you live someplace like Orange County (The OC). HAHAHA! $15k-$20k for those colleges. Make sme crazy when I see their ads on TV. Very misleading. As an example, the job I have now, I would make $15K more in Orange COunty than I do here. Oh well, I ain't movin!

 

[redhen]

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debi..thats not always the case..as with any job..the more experience the more money you make..i was way over $12 an hour...actually my rate was REAL close to the LPN's there... also, they pay more for differant shifts and per-diem basis..so, you can make more than 10-12 an hour..but, it does take a few years...just wanted to let you know.., Wendy

 

[redhen]

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that is NUTS!..i only paid like $300..lol

 

[mangled]

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I feel your pain.

When I got my batchelors', we lived in Arizona, and fresh out of college, I was making $11,000 more yearly than I'm making here in PA, and that's with 7 more years of experience under my belt and most of my work towards my Masters' done.

I ain't moving back to Phoenix, either, LOL.

Em