new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Molpet]

It is this kind of suggestion that is used in the Fast Food advertising that those of us in the US are bombarded with. It is actually quite shocking. I once tried to figure out the number of calories that were pushed at me in one hour of a TV program but lost count at about 10,000!

Yeppers
I have to change the channel. I can't eat wheat or cows milk products and avoid sweetners for the most part... so those ads are torcher

 

[Sally PB]

I can feel chocolate cravings build, if I'm thinking about chocolate a lot. That's why I don't keep it in the house.

Exception: Cocoa. I use that for making grownies. Yes, they are chocolate, but they are also oats, quinoa, applesauce, peanut butter (well, yeah; I am Sally PB!) eggs, and honey. Dense, filling, lots of fiber, and, oh yeah, some chocolate taste there too.

 

[Bawkbok]

Great information in this thread. Hopefully, no quiz later. Yikes

I wonder how much health plays into the cravings and if certain medical conditions force the body to always want (need) certain foods; i.e., salt vs. sugar, tart vs. sweet, spicey vs. mild.

As a kid, I craved chocolate and candy, but who didn't? As an adult, I'll take chips (my weakness) and salt over sweet any day of the week. Ice cream is almost a turn off now - probably not a bad thing.

 

[Sally PB]

And... how do pregnancy cravings fit in, I wonder? I've never been pregnant, so I don't know anything about them, other than what other people have said.

 

[Perris]

Ice cream is almost a turn off now - probably not a bad thing.

indeed. Ice cream is almost 100% fake now.

 

[Perris]

And... how do pregnancy cravings fit in, I wonder? I've never been pregnant, so I don't know anything about them, other than what other people have said.

pica - my assumption - and it is exactly that, I've read nothing on it specifically - is that the craving is for something left field that the embryo/foetus needs, but obviously that doesn't fit the basic 5 appetites model.

 

[Sally PB]

Interesting. I'd never thought of that. I think I've heard or read that it's related to hormones, IIRC. Goodness knows there are loads of those involved with pregnancy.

 

[Bawkbok]

Pickles and peanut butter - together. That was my craving while pregnant. Any kind of pickle but spears were my first choice. I have no idea why.

 

[ManueB]

I can feel chocolate cravings build, if I'm thinking about chocolate a lot. That's why I don't keep it in the house.

Exception: Cocoa. I use that for making grownies. Yes, they are chocolate, but they are also oats, quinoa, applesauce, peanut butter (well, yeah; I am Sally PB!) eggs, and honey. Dense, filling, lots of fiber, and, oh yeah, some chocolate taste there too.

I'm unfortunately someone who is prone to addictions and food is no exception. For me at least, chocolate, sugar and coffee cravings are exactly that : plain addictions. I had at some points in my life problems with alcohol and cannabis (I got in control before those became serious problems) and the way it worked both physiologically and psychologically is the same. You just need more, and more often, until a day without makes you feel depressed or sluggish or dazed.
Processing may have to do with initially perverting a sense of satiety, but not with the addiction itself. I have to refrain myself from eating a whole jar of honey ; and I can eat a whole bag of roasted cocoa beans like a whole dark chocolate tablet after dinner. For the last five years I ate ultra-processed food no more than four or five times a year ; it hasn't helped in that regard.

I managed to regain control of my addiction to coffee by doing a month without, and then switching some of that coffee to teas and other warm drinks. Sugar, I'm just not ready to do that, I need something less drastic. Chocolate...prices have skyrocketed here and will continue to go up as world cocoa stocks have reached low records, so I'm also going to have to do something. I'll try your grownies, @Sally PB. But I think I need a real theobromine fast to get my life under control !

 

[RoyalChick]

Well addiction and appetite and satiety do seem to be linked.
The GLP-1 agonists (Ozempic and the like) do a lot of things in the body, one of which is reducing what is called ‘food noise’. Needing to eat, thinking about food etc.
turns out they probably reduce other addiction-type noise.
The data on reduced alcohol use in those with alcohol use disorders is quite promising and I think (I may be wrong) was originally an incidental find in a population prescribed GLP-1s for diabetes.