Can some please correct thread title to read Waterers and not Waters???? After seeing many different setups on BYC and online here is what I am currently using and really like the results. Waterers: Very clean water, have not had any freezing issues using 50watt and 100 watt aquarium heater down to high teens so far. Inside setup: Outside setup: For a feeder I was using this and was not really happy with it. Chooks were still able to knock food out onto the floor (not as bad as regular hanging feeders). Also my rooster cut his wattle on the edge. I did sand everything after drilling but must have missed some or his fat face fits snug. Old feeder: Now removed I have two 5 Gallon feeders now: This one uses 4" SDR sharp 90° elbows This one uses 3" PVC street 90° elbows. The hens are the only ones using the feeder with the 3" PVC, I have not seen the roosters use it at all. Roosters are only using the feeder with the 4" SDR sharp 90° elbows. This may be an option to try for some who are looking to possibly use two different feeds for roosters and hens. It has me rethinking the whole feed situation myself. I may be able to keep some layer feed now. I know others use very similar setups, it would be interesting if others are having the same results with what size fittings they are using. Both feeders are hung at similar heights. I will update this if things change but what I have experienced so far is: 4" SDR sharp 90° elbows are used by both hens and roosters. 3" PVC Street 90° elbows are used only by hens. I also have not noticed any food being pulled out onto the floor.