North Carolina ban to Kill Numerous Breeds

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1. Pits don't have a locking jaw.. are th ey persistent? Yes, just like ALL terriers. They will keep going, but that isn't what makes them dangerous.

I will have to get the link later, I am at work and on my phone. There is a study that looks at attacks by not just breed, but circumstances of the attack.

#1 factor was age. The vast majority of victims were young children with a dog with no adult present. Some were family dogs and others belonged to neighbors or were strays.

2# chaining. The dogs were either chained at the time of the attack or were loose from their chain.

#3 socio-economic. Majority of attacks were in poor and/or rural areas. I attirubute this to rental situations where no dogs in the h ouse prevails as well as an attitude of "dogs arew dogs=outside"


Its like plane crases vs auto accidents. All the cars in the ditch yesterday isn't news but 1 plane diverted for weather is a national headline.
 
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As a person who lives in NC and nearby a high-kill animal shelter, I can see why they are trying for this legislation. The breeds listed are the ones that are least adopted, especially if they are large and dark colored. Although I don't totally agree with it, it would save NC animal shelters money this way. I know at our local shelter, animals are kept about a week or so before they are put down. The cost of dog food and care has went up and donations have went down. If you really want to make a difference, set aside some money to donate to the shelters - every little bit helps. You can also donate bags of dog and cat food or open a donation account at a local vet for medical care for animals brought in with injuries.
 
I have a "pitbull" and Amstaffs, I would not trust another breed with my children as much as I do these, the problem is all of these ignorant wanna be dog breeders, who pay not a lick of attention to temperament. Putting two dogs together doesn't make you a breeder. These breeds are not for everyone, but with guidance, training and trust you will not find a better dog. I know that with the way things are it is inevitable that innocent animals will die, it is sad they have to pay the price for human failure. A ban needs to be placed on people breeding dogs without proper qualifications, as it is done in other countries. Sad, there is not a more inhumane creature than SOME humans.

I would like to apologize to the people that have had bad experiences with these breeds, as an owner of a pitbull, amstaff, great dane and akita. Please, please, please do not judge these breeds by a few bad seeds.
 
I would like to add that there has been some research done on the sociological aspect of stereotyping pits and pitbulls. A great deal of public perception is tied to how the breed is associated with "low income" "criminal" or "minority groups". There is a lot of evidence that far from the stereotyping of pitbulls being a direct result of the danger of pit bulls, that in fact pit bull "danger" is a sociological construct related to societal fears of the "other". This construct has been picked up by the media and the minds of people (we are after all, products of our socialization) to the point that any story or incident we encounter on the news or in person only serves to re-enforce the negative stereotype we already have. This phenomenon is similar to how a racist will interpret any negative news story about a minority group as "evidence" that they are correct to be racist (or that racist stereotypes are supportable).
 
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Exactly. Pit bulls do NOT have locking jaws. They do have a high pain threshold, but so do ALL terrier breeds. These dogs were bred to be dog aggressive, but not human aggressive. My pit bull has caught 3 strays on my property. She did not seriously hurt any of them. She never "locked down" and ripped out hunks of flesh. She used as much force as necessary to make them back down and stay put until we came to her aid and removed the dogs. In all 3 cases, the dogs she subdued had only a few puncture wounds....nothing serious at all. And two of those dogs were Pit Bulls! Bailey is dog aggressive but you can't fault her that since it's what she was bred to be. She is wonderful with dogs that she knows, but does protect her property from dogs that don't belong here. That's just the way pit bulls are.....but that's also the way that most terriers are! Pit Bulls have the same tenacity that Airedale terriers have but are much more trainable. So why aren't Airedales being banned? Makes no sense to me.
 
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This is a very interesting analysis that I have never seen before. Very good.
 
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This post exemplifies ignorance at it's finest. I'm glad you posted this, as it shows what an unfortunate state of affairs this wonderful dog is in.

Perhaps you should do some more research. Here are some little pit bull facts that most people do not know:

Pit Bulls and Bully Dogs were the number one breed in America from the early 1800s to the 1950s.

Pit Bulls do not have the strongest bite - that is reserved for the Rottweiler

Pit Bulls were the "All American Dog" and were featured in many films including: Homeward Bound I, II, and III, Little Rascals, and many others.

Nipper the RCA dog is a pit bull

Petey from Little Rascals is a Pit Bull

There have been no deaths attributed to a pit bull that has been spayed or neutered. Does fixing an animal really have anything to do with this? Not really, but people who pay the money to fix their animal are typically more responsible and better owners.

Toy breeds bite, attack, and display aggression much more than Pit or Bully type dogs. The difference is they're much much smaller, so it's excused.

Pit bulls make an excellent therapy dog, service dog, agility dog, and police dog.



Now my friend, the problem doesn't lie in the breed. It lies in who raises the animal, and the ignorance of others. Keep in mind I'm not saying that a pit bull won't snap for apparently no reason. Any dog can. However, the incidents of well trained pit dogs (or any dogs) snapping for no reason are few and far between. You are no more in danger from a pit raised in a loving family and well trained than a lab, yorkie, or any other breed of dog.
 
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I don't know where you get your statistical info from. On the internet you can find any statistic to support any argument you choose.

Also, I have stopped fights. People who panic and do stupid things cannot stop a fight. I have stopped a fight between these dogs on a few occasions by myself. I have had other people help me break up fights on the schutzhund field because their dog forced it's way out of the crate or simply left the handler and wouldn't obey during obedience. In these cases it was ALWAYS my dog who was attacked by the other breed. I tell you what, other breeds can indeed and do bite and hold.

Also, many many inherited personality traits in a given dog governs their nature and how persistent they are. When I did schutzhund, after practice we usually had a picnic. Everybody would hussle away their rotties and shepherds and what have you into their crates to keep them away from the kids because they felt they couldn't trust them. And knowing their dogs, I agreed with them. I let my 3 dogs run with the kids with absolute perfect confidence they would never injure a child. Ever. They just ran around, in and among the pack of kids and played with them and helped them dig a hole and everything. This was just after practicing bite work.

I am not saying all rotties and shepherds across the board are untrustworthy with kids.

Making hasty, sweeping generalizations about any breed is unfair and counterproductive. As I said before in this thread, I have had dogs bite me and never once considered that they should be wiped from the earth. Once was in the face and required a goodly # of stitches.
 
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