North Carolina ban to Kill Numerous Breeds

[deerman]

Myself I don't dislike the breed pit bulls, but spend some time in the ER and see the damage some of the large breed can do.

The fearless they have make them great guard dogs......I have been around many dog breeds ,to me the chow chow is the worth for turning on their owners they just don't have the power of pits and are easier to Stop the attack.

 

[ChickenfootDuckbutt]

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One of my WORST dog bites is from JUST that, a toy breed, I have a quarter inch scar on my left eyebrow when a neighbors chihauhau lunged at my face as a child.

by contrast I have also been bitten by a 65 pound boxer mix, and a 100 pound shepherd, NIETHER left a scar


In reality TOY breeds bite for bite should be collectively MORE dangerous than large breeds, why? toy breeds are cute, cuddly, "delicate" people forget that they're DOGS, they pamper them, spoil them, carry them around with little to NO stranger or child socialization, but ofcourse a tiny little toy poodle bites someonel, it doesn't get reported, because that dog can do no real damge, how often do you hear of toy breeds snapping at a childs face or head?, you don't, but it happens.

larger breeds usually when they DO bite, they bite once, it's usually a snap, and it's usually a warning (this is apart from TRUELY dangerous dogs), little dogs though, snap again and again and again

 

[deerman]

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One of my WORST dog bites is from JUST that, a toy breed, I have a quarter inch scar on my left eyebrow when a neighbors chihauhau lunged at my face as a child.

by contrast I have also been bitten by a 65 pound boxer mix, and a 100 pound shepherd, NIETHER left a scar


In reality TOY breeds bite for bite should be collectively MORE dangerous than large breeds, why? toy breeds are cute, cuddly, "delicate" people forget that they're DOGS, they pamper them, spoil them, carry them around with little to NO stranger or child socialization, but ofcourse a tiny little toy poodle bites someonel, it doesn't get reported, because that dog can do no real damge, how often do you hear of toy breeds snapping at a childs face or head?, you don't, but it happens.

Thats my point ,pit owner act like these small toy dogs are more dangerous

larger breeds usually when they DO bite, they bite once, it's usually a snap, and it's usually a warning (this is apart from TRUELY dangerous dogs), little dogs though, snap again and again and again

good thing it wasn't a large dog that bit your eyebrow, or sure you would have lost that eye. Like a small child who lost half her face to a chow.

Didn't said a small dog couldn't bite.......odd slim a small toy dog will do more damage in a attack, than the larger breeds.

The scar has more to do with your small size at the time, not the dogs size.....how many times have youn hear of a toy breed killing a person....none. Happens with the larger breed.

 

[dainerra]

http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2010/01/2009-dog-bite-fatalities-final-report.html

I find this report most telling because it involves FATALITIES, not just bites. It also lists whether or not the attack was covered in the media, the area it was in, age of the victim, etc

It also contains a link for previous years.

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1) Fatal incidents are extremely rare. With about 75 million dogs in the US, and 32 fatal dog attacks each year, they are such a statistically anomaly that decisions on "breed" aggression should not be based on such rare incidents. By comparison, the US Population is 300 million (4x the dog population) and saw over 16,000 murders (500x the number of dog-related deaths). If only humans could be close to as safe as dogs.

In total, there were 33 dog-bite related fatalities (32 events) in 2009.

-- 16 different dog breeds, or mixes thereof, were involved (counting 'mixed breed' as it's own category).

-- 9 cases involved chained dogs

-- 8 cases were in areas that were affected with high poverty rates

-- 4 cases involved packs of feral or near feral dogs

-- 3 involved newborns

-- of the 5 incidents that were covered by 150 media sources or more, 2 involved 'pit bulls', 1 involved a Rottweiler, 1 involved a pit bull/akita mix (that was widely reported as a 'pit bull mix') and 1 involved a Weimaraner.

-- There were 7 incidents that were covered by fewer than 6 media outlets, the breeds involved were Husky, Chow Chow, Husky, Boxers, Australian Shepherd/Blue Heeler mixes and a Great Dane.

Yes, apparently all attacks are not created equally in the eyes of the media.

The attacks fall into roughly 4 categories:

 

[Sword]

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But in the days of dogfighting they were bred to be extremely dog aggressive, not human aggressive. A fighting dog that went after his owner wouldn't have lasted long. There are drug and gang creeps that are currently breeding them for human aggression, but this is very recent, and they would just find a different breed if pits were banned.

 

[RHRanch]

Hey, one thing NO ONE want to talk about is the commonalities of the owners of these biting dogs. Think about it, have you ever seen a story about a fatal mauling where the owners looked like upstanding folks with their acts together? Neither have I. My point is, irresponsible people, whether its irresponsible parents, teachers, dog owners, chicken owners or whatever cause all kinds of problems. Myself thinking back to as many stories I have seen reported locally noticed that the owners of these dogs that hurt people/kill them tend to be either (a) drug addicts/substance abusers, gang ,members, and usually poor. These stories seldom come out of our well to do ares. (By the way, I am not saying the poor are inherently bad owners, but poverty can be associated with crime, lack of education, etc)

 

[Kevin565]

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I've actually heard of a few cases were responsible owners had issues. Accidents can happen. A door can accidently be left open which leads to the dog getting free. A hole in a fence just large enough for them to squeeze through. Though these cases are rarer it is possible.

 

[RHRanch]

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I've actually heard of a few cases were responsible owners had issues. Accidents can happen. A door can accidently be left open which leads to the dog getting free. A hole in a fence just large enough for them to squeeze through. Though these cases are rarer it is possible.

True, accidents can happen, but responsible owners don't usually keep dangerous dogs in easily es-capable situations, if at all. I mean, honestly - what responsible home owner keeps a biting dog in their backyard - one who wants to get sued and lose everything? Like you said, unlikely. And keep in mind, a dog biting someone is a lot different from a dog killing someone. Bites happen a lot, but if you are talking about death by dog, I would be willing to bet that disproportionately the dogs will be from the type of homes I described in my earlier post.

 

[deerman]

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just another way to hide the facts......i just done the math of the 32 .....guess what 41% were from one breed PITS



Pits =40%

Rott=13%

boxer =6%

husky =6%

great dane =6%

wild dogs= 6%

7 other single each 3 % each


So WHICH BREED KILLS THE MOST people........

 

[RHRanch]

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just another way to hide the facts......i just done the math of the 32 .....guess what 41% were from one breed PITS

But apparently you missed the sociological and behavioral significance of the details of those facts(poverty, feral dogs, chaining, and parents allowing a large dog access to their children)