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This will help me possibly win an incubator that I really need.

Matt

I liked it! Good luck Matt!

 

[Mouzekin]

How long have you had your babies? Did you get from a flock swap or I guess I should say what side of Fayetteville did you get your birds from? I hope you don't have MG. Let us know how it goes, good luck

Yes i got them from the flock swap on Persons St the weekend before last. I called the seller and told him what I suspected and he said they were healthy when he sold them to me and that none of his flock was showing signs of MG. he basically told me tough luck he wasn't going to take them back and acted Insulted when I told him what I suspected. I may be new to chickens, but I'm not stupid. I know a sick bird when I see one and all the symptoms lead me to believe it's MG. I will keep you folks updated. This has definately been a learning experience. I know what to ask an look for now if I have to buy birds again! That is for sure.

 

[ramirezframing]

oh, I am so sorry that happened to you. Most chicken people aint like that. So no matter what the out come is, please don't give up on chickens.

 

[HenThymes]

I got a call back from the person at the coop and she said that since MG is a reportable disease I will probably have someone come out to my home and test my chickens and quarantine them until testing is back. I'm glad at least I'm getting some results from the varrious departments here.
If they do test positive they will be going to contact the guy I got them from. I am going to feel really horrible if he tests positive too. From what I was told he said he had a large flock that he was selling on a regular basis. But I'd rather be though of as a jerk than have other peoples chickens in danger if they buy from him like I did.

This is again one of those things I will say my piece about.... MG is not a required test here in NC and many other states for that matter that participate in the NPIP program. MANY many many birds probably carry MG and TONS of poultry owners are unaware it even exists. I bet most people who raise and sell poultry know nothing about MG. It may be a reportable disease but it's not enforced or tested for by NPIP. Mycoplasmas are in quite a few different animals and yes it can cross varieties. I personally know someone who had some birds tested and they did come back positive, after she did further testing the mycoplasma her birds carried was not even a poultry strain but rather a goat strain! So just because you test and it comes back doesn't mean it may be what it even appears to be. Just fyi.

My personal opinion is that if someone is that concerned about MG (and are obviously aware that MG exists) then they should buy from a flock that has been MG tested negative.

 

[Mouzekin]

This is again one of those things I will say my piece about.... MG is not a required test here in NC and many other states for that matter that participate in the NPIP program. MANY many many birds probably carry MG and TONS of poultry owners are unaware it even exists. I bet most people who raise and sell poultry know nothing about MG. It may be a reportable disease but it's not enforced or tested for by NPIP. Mycoplasmas are in quite a few different animals and yes it can cross varieties. I personally know someone who had some birds tested and they did come back positive, after she did further testing the mycoplasma her birds carried was not even a poultry strain but rather a goat strain! So just because you test and it comes back doesn't mean it may be what it even appears to be. Just fyi.

My personal opinion is that if someone is that concerned about MG (and are obviously aware that MG exists) then they should buy from a flock that has been MG tested negative.

I didn't know it existed until after I had bought the birds and they started showing signs of being sick about 2 days later. Upon research of all the symptoms that is the diagnossis that best fits. These 4 are the first ever chickens I have had in my life so I didn't know any better. When asking the forum what it could be and reading for myself I found that MG is a serious disease that can affect not only me personally, but anyone who has birds which came in contact with my birds at the flock swap since it is highly contagious and from what I've read transmitted through contact or airborn or in the egg. I am not only worried for them but I'm also trying to be responsible owner. Obvious,y if a flock is to be quarantined and no other chickens can be introduced its a pretty serious disease. I'm just trying to be safe...and if I'm righty..I'll end up being sorry, but I'm going to make darn sure that others won't be if I can help it.

 

[Coop Scoop Boogie]

Evening Folks

Hope everyone had a great day!!!!!

Micheal, Go and Mouze.......I am so sorry you had a bad day,
I hope things get much better for you

I hate when people try to get away with cheating folks with shady deals

Happy B-day Wild..........hope you had lots of cake and ate it too

 

[HenThymes]

I didn't know it existed until after I had bought the birds and they started showing signs of being sick about 2 days later. Upon research of all the symptoms that is the diagnossis that best fits. These 4 are the first ever chickens I have had in my life so I didn't know any better. When asking the forum what it could be and reading for myself I found that MG is a serious disease that can affect not only me personally, but anyone who has birds which came in contact with my birds at the flock swap since it is highly contagious and from what I've read transmitted through contact or airborn or in the egg. I am not only worried for them but I'm also trying to be responsible owner. Obvious,y if a flock is to be quarantined and no other chickens can be introduced its a pretty serious disease. I'm just trying to be safe...and if I'm righty..I'll end up being sorry, but I'm going to make darn sure that others won't be if I can help it.

What are the symptoms? You say you are treating with Tylan, injectable?? Have you given tylan an opportunity to work before jumping the gun? I am going to be blunt for a moment and yes it may seem harsh - If you feel you need to cull because you feel it's MG then you should cull asap! As you stated it is airborne so it can travel from your location to other farms with other poultry in your area and now you are infecting them (all the while that you are trying to track down someone to test for you)! It can also be carried on you and then you visit someone else or come in contact with a shopping cart or wore that same shoes somewhere and then someone else touches it that has poultry and now they have taken it home to their birds, get the drift??

In case you don't know, Avian Influenza already exists in the US in lots of poultry as well, just not the strain they test for with NPIP. Had outbreaks out in CA quite a few years ago, they made it a voluntary cull to owners so many of those birds are still here and/or passed it on.

Poultry are live beings and have respiratory systems, they are going to get sick, colds and more just like humans, dogs, horses and other animals. Other animals carry just as many if not more viruses, are you always going to run to put them down and have them tested for every disease known to man? They are not going to be perfect all the time, IT HAPPENS!!!! We also have wild birds, they are the #1 carrier of disease to domestic poultry as well as fowl mites.

 

[Mouzekin]

I'm treating with tylan 50 orally. I have kept them in their coop the entire time and wear cetain shoes out to visit them (although I admit I didn't at first because I didn't know) I don't want to cull them if I don't have to, so I want to be sure and have all my options. I also wash my hands when I come in and change clothes when I am done with them. I'm trying to have as much bio security as I can. I'm sure I'm nowhere close to perfect but I'm still learning. I have also never killed anything aside from bugs and the though is extremely hard for me.

Symptoms- shaking head, coughing/ sneezing( not sure exactly which it was... Has only happened a few times) with mucus being expelled at least once( think flying loogie), foam in the eyes. Keeping eyes closed, staying in one spot and just sitting there. Occasional gagging face/look, and diarrhea.

As I said before these are the first chickens I have ever had. All I wanted was a nice couple of birds to keep for eggs and for the amusement of my family. Instead I've had a nightmare from nearly the beginning with no one to turn to aside from a friend 1000miles away and a community of people online,who I don't know personally, to help me as best they can. I turned to the state and local government because I was advised to and I am still HOPING that I am wrong.

 

[HenThymes]

I'm treating with tylan 50 orally. I have kept them in their coop the entire time and wear cetain shoes out to visit them (although I admit I didn't at first because I didn't know) I don't want to cull them if I don't have to, so I want to be sure and have all my options. I also wash my hands when I come in and change clothes when I am done with them. I'm trying to have as much bio security as I can. I'm sure I'm nowhere close to perfect but I'm still learning. I have also never killed anything aside from bugs and the though is extremely hard for me.
Symptoms- shaking head, coughing/ sneezing( not sure exactly which it was... Has only happened a few times) with mucus being expelled at least once( think flying loogie), foam in the eyes. Keeping eyes closed, staying in one spot and just sitting there. Occasional gagging face/look, and diarrhea.
As I said before these are the first chickens I have ever had. All I wanted was a nice couple of birds to keep for eggs and for the amusement of my family. Instead I've had a nightmare from nearly the beginning with no one to turn to aside from a friend 1000miles away and a community of people online,who I don't know personally, to help me as best they can. I turned to the state and local government because I was advised to and I am still HOPING that I am wrong.

How old are they? Sounds like a resp infection or coryza. (both of which can be carried by wild birds) But my advise would be to treat with Tylan Injectable. Orally, doesn't ensure they are getting it or even enough, injectable gets the proper dose to each individual bird and only takes 3 takes to work. Given your description of their condition they may not be taking in enough meds. I would also recommend Gallimycin 100 instead of Tylan for these symptoms, injectable to 5 days.

You did pick them up at a swap, the person you got them from may not be where the problem came from if other people were looking at those same birds they could have come in contact with something at the swap.

Stress of a move can also bring the onset of a condition.

 

[scottcaddy]

The bigger ones are easter eggers, who knows what color they will be. And I have a feeling some of them are roos

I seem to be really good at hatching boys...

After all <BG> somebody has to do it!

Glad to see that I'm not the only one with that knack.

not more Roo's again!

Scott