Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

[hogster160]

I couldn't candle my hens eggs until I went to TSC and bought one of the small flashlights that have 9 leds in them. $1.99 each now and I can see through even the thickest shell. No heat either. Love it!

Thanks, I'll have to go and get one. Mine worked on most, but not all. And when I let her out yesterday, a couple of the others decided to go sit on the nest while she was out, they also laid eggs. Silly me, I never thought about it. Now I don't know what eggs are fertile. I have 3 or 4 extra eggs in the nest. I'll go out today and get one. Thanks for the suggestion. And I will mark the ones that are fertile. I had read about doing it, just forgot about doing it.

 

[hogster160]

If it's useful for anyone, here's some of the info I've put together on Tylan & used in treating my birds:

Med may treat some (but not necessarily all) strains of these health problems: Infectious Coryza, Mycoplasma, Necrotic Enteritis, Ornithobacterium Rhinotracheale

--For soluble: Mix fresh water at least every 3 days. Don't mix with vinegar.
--Soluble form less effective on adults than young birds.
--Can give with thin needle into different spots in breast muscle or subcutaneously for 5-7 days.
*Tylan 50: Up to 1.6 cc. (This is a lot of fluid--May wish to split up-- some orally, &/or inject some intramusc. &/or subcutan.
*Tylan 200: 1/2 cc. (Tylan 200 is easier for chickens. Smaller dose required.)
--Can possibly give Tylan injectible orally instead or in addition to injection, tho there has been speculation that this might cause throat damage?? You can try putting needle-less 1-cc size syringe well down throat almost to crop to try to minimize risk.
-Active for 8 hours. Can split dose into 2-3 times/day.--May cause pain at injection site & gastro-intestinal disturbance. Birds may be reluctant to eat or move very much.
* Injectible can cause minor damage to breast muscle. May be best to split dose up & inject into more than one site. Not recommended for meat birds.
Caution: Combining multiple Macrolides reduces effectiveness.

I have gathered info on a lot of different meds & compiled it in a Chicken Medicine Chart on the website linked in my sig, if you are ever looking for a reference that covers a large number of meds.

Thank you for this. I didn't know you had a site to go to. It is now book marked!

eta: Omg you have so much information at this site. I had no clue, thank you for all of your very hard work!

 

[salt and pepper]

Thanks for the help! For the last two days I have been giving Tylan 50 orally, with a dosage of 1/2 ccs. Should I up the dosage? I've already noticed a slight difference in the faces! I plan of treating them for five days.

Oh, update on the white EE.... She died. I have no Idea what took her. She had been acting fine for a week, and had actually gained some weight. Then I find her huddled in the coop, reluctant to walk, and panting really badly. I brought her in, and her feet were HOT. I put her on ice with a blanket over it to help her cool down. I guess I was too late though, because within an hour she was dead =(

 

[casportpony]

There's also another link that has avian dosing that was written by vets, but you need to understand a little math to use it correctly.

This is the link:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

I also have a Veterinary Drug Handbook that lists doses, drug interactions, warnings, side effects, etc, so just ask and I'll look it up for you.

The problem with most websites that I've seen is that they often have lots of errors and mis-information.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Thank you for this. I didn't know you had a site to go to. It is now book marked!

eta: Omg you have so much information at this site. I had no clue, thank you for all of your very hard work!

Note that the doses listed on the site are "generally for average 5 lb (2.27 kg) chicken]", so keep that in mind when dosing smaller or larger birds... One should always try to get an accurate weight and dose base weight.

No offense intended to anyone, I'm just really anal about weighing and dosing, ask anyone that knows me, lol, that say I'm nuts that way.

-Kathy

 

[hogster160]

Note that the doses listed on the site are "[COLOR=0000FF]generally for average 5 lb (2.27 kg)[/COLOR] chicken]", so keep that in mind when dosing smaller or larger birds... One should always try to get an accurate weight and dose base weight. No offense intended to anyone, I'm just really anal about weighing and dosing, ask anyone that knows me, lol, that say I'm nuts that way.

-Kathy

No problem, I do as much as I can with weights, makes life much easier, and thanks for the links.

 

[Haunted55]

Thanks for the help! For the last two days I have been giving Tylan 50 orally, with a dosage of 1/2 ccs. Should I up the dosage? I've already noticed a slight difference in the faces! I plan of treating them for five days.

Oh, update on the white EE.... She died. I have no Idea what took her. She had been acting fine for a week, and had actually gained some weight. Then I find her huddled in the coop, reluctant to walk, and panting really badly. I brought her in, and her feet were HOT. I put her on ice with a blanket over it to help her cool down. I guess I was too late though, because within an hour she was dead =(

S&P...I only have a minute or two....what was wrong with the EE before? This sounds like a major infection. Was something missed? Darn it! She was doing well and now this. I'm so sorry.

 

[Haunted55]

Note that the doses listed on the site are "generally for average 5 lb (2.27 kg) chicken]", so keep that in mind when dosing smaller or larger birds... One should always try to get an accurate weight and dose base weight.

No offense intended to anyone, I'm just really anal about weighing and dosing, ask anyone that knows me, lol, that say I'm nuts that way.

-Kathy

I don't....when it really counts, you get the weight, period. When my KC duck had botulism, if I didn't have the weight....let's say this, I don't think she'd still be with me if I hadn't. Scales are cheap compared to the time, energy and love that could be wasted if we lose one because the dosing wasn't right.

You use a water soluable, you dont need the weight but for Tylan, Baytril or any of the others that are given per bird....weigh 'em and be sure.

 

[salt and pepper]

S&P...I only have a minute or two....what was wrong with the EE before? This sounds like a major infection. Was something missed? Darn it! She was doing well and now this. I'm so sorry.

Well, she was acting really lethargic, and losing weight, and her comb was pale. Those were the only symptoms. I first treated her for worms, and that didn't help. I tried Dumycin, and that didn't help. I finally put her on sulmet, and after the third day she started perking up. I kept her on it for five days, and she was better. I had also given her electolytes. Her comb gained color, she started gaining weight, and she was keeping up with the other chickens. Then yesterday I find her huddled up, in the coop. Her comb was still red, but she didn't want to walk, and her feet were HOT. She also threw up when I picked her up. It was bright yellow. I brought her inside to help her cool down. And she died within an hour. That mass near her throat never left...

 

[casportpony]

I don't....when it really counts, you get the weight, period. When my KC duck had botulism, if I didn't have the weight....let's say this, I don't think she'd still be with me if I hadn't. Scales are cheap compared to the time, energy and love that could be wasted if we lose one because the dosing wasn't right.

You use a water soluable, you dont need the weight but for Tylan, Baytril or any of the others that are given per bird....weigh 'em and be sure.

Well said! And always double and triple check dose amounts, don't rely on what someone on a forum says, 'cause many, myself included, have been known to give mis-information. Lol, don't even get me started on the Corid dose mis-information!

-Kathy