Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

[seminolewind]

Well , I lost a chick. Maybe 2 weeks old or less.I don't think the food was going thru. Her crop filled up and that was that. There was just water in there yesterday. I was going out every hour and giving her drips of sugar water with Corrid and Tylan, and gave her a shot of Pen. Anything to try , right?

Poor thing.

Haunted, I had 8 weekers that were vaccinated at day 1. Did they get Marek's? No. They got Cocci (enteritis). No symptoms, just hemorrhaged and died. 3 out of 8. 2 of them got swelled eyes and died. . Even tho they won't get Marek's, they have poor resistance against other nasties.

I know Marek's and cocci go hand in hand. It's probably due to the immune system or poor resistance to Any bacteria.

 

[Haunted55]

Ah Seminole, I'm sorry. It's these little ones that get me the most.

My staggered hatch finished up on the 18th with the last chick hatching around 3:00 in the morning. 36 hrs. after the others and with some kind of troubles from the beginning. Almost constant loud chirping and mostly unable to keep itself upright. As soon as it was dried I put it in with the others already in the brooder and it quieted down and went to sleep. A short while later, it was dead. I don't know if it had something wrong inside or what. It wasn't compatible with life though, no question. These chicks, 11 live hatch and one that pipped and didn't finish, were late. They were put into lockdown on the the 10th late night. Very late hatching and not sure if this means anything or not. This breeding for resistance is something else...

 

[salt and pepper]

Well , I lost a chick. Maybe 2 weeks old or less.I don't think the food was going thru. Her crop filled up and that was that. There was just water in there yesterday. I was going out every hour and giving her drips of sugar water with Corrid and Tylan, and gave her a shot of Pen. Anything to try , right?

Poor thing.

Haunted, I had 8 weekers that were vaccinated at day 1. Did they get Marek's? No. They got Cocci (enteritis). No symptoms, just hemorrhaged and died. 3 out of 8. 2 of them got swelled eyes and died. . Even tho they won't get Marek's, they have poor resistance against other nasties.

I know Marek's and cocci go hand in hand. It's probably due to the immune system or poor resistance to Any bacteria.

I'm really sorry for your troubles =( Thankfully I've never had to deal with cocci, in any of my years having chickens.

 

[seminolewind]

Ah Seminole, I'm sorry. It's these little ones that get me the most.

My staggered hatch finished up on the 18th with the last chick hatching around 3:00 in the morning. 36 hrs. after the others and with some kind of troubles from the beginning. Almost constant loud chirping and mostly unable to keep itself upright. As soon as it was dried I put it in with the others already in the brooder and it quieted down and went to sleep. A short while later, it was dead. I don't know if it had something wrong inside or what. It wasn't compatible with life though, no question. These chicks, 11 live hatch and one that pipped and didn't finish, were late. They were put into lockdown on the the 10th late night. Very late hatching and not sure if this means anything or not. This breeding for resistance is something else...

salt and pepper, I guess I just wanted to say that regardless of having resistant chicks or vaccinated chicks, it just seems like they have lower resistance to the nasty bugs. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[salt and pepper]

salt and pepper, I guess I just wanted to say that regardless of having resistant chicks or vaccinated chicks, it just seems like they have lower resistance to the nasty bugs. Just something to keep in mind.

Thank you for the warning. I finally have ALL the chicks out of my house!!!! So happy =))) I will be selling six of them, to get to the number I want, And I still have some extras, (though they don't feel like extras anymore!) I'm pretty confident that all will make it. This batch has been SO much less worrisome, then the last one was. How is your older flock doing?

 

[seminolewind]

My older flock is doing well. I did have one demise last week, she was 4 years old. When they waste, it's awful knowing there's nothing you can do.

 

[salt and pepper]

My older flock is doing well. I did have one demise last week, she was 4 years old. When they waste, it's awful knowing there's nothing you can do.

I'm sorry =(

 

[Chicks on DL]

Since you first posted I have been going round and round trying to find something even close to this. It keeps coming back to either a sinus infection and maybe even mites as well. I've even done a bunch of reading on staph infections as they can appear so many different ways. Weird and if and when one of us figures it out it'll be a head slapper I'm sure, lol. Can you do more pics? I know it's hard to get them sometimes but it would be helpful. Saying you have watched the scabs grow...that's the part that throws me off. Unless this bird was being pecked before you got her and the places had some deep damage done. I have a duck that was being grabbed by other drakes and even a couple of the geese got into the act. When I first noticed it, he had a couple of raw spots on his neck and head. Blu-Koted him and left him with the others over night. Next day the places that had been red and sore had turned black and raised. Took him into the house and put him into the tub, and then checked him closely. The others pinching him had really done a number on him! The initial redness was nothing....it took 2 weeks for this to finish scabbing and finally fall off. I'm just wondering if it could be something like this going on with yours.

I don't like to say it isnt Marek's. It could be, but....if it is this virulent, that it is showing up this early, there would already have been paralysis and or death. Marek's can show up as early as 3 weeks, but if it does it is a death sentence 90% of the time. That is what is keeping me from anything to do with the M word. The eyes are a little suspect and that is why I asked if you could maybe take another couple of pictures. It may have just been that picture that made the eyes look so protuberant. Please...I am not saying your bird has Marek's.

I will try to get some picures tomorrow. My 5-year-old had the flu this weekend.

 

[salt and pepper]

Just wondering, what did you find that DID kill the COCCI??

 

[Haunted55]

Just wondering, what did you find that DID kill the COCCI??

If it turns into an enteritis, Sulmet will work...usually....most times. Soemtimes it's never gone and can explode on you again.