NY Gay Pride Weekend

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oohhh yeah. Here in the south, it gets hot but you can let your animals graze about ten months out of the year without having to supplemental them, on good pasture land. Love the long growing season. If done right you can get three harvests of corn too

THREE harvest of corn??? Whoa, we can only do with ONE! Or two if we plant them a bit later for eating sweet corn but have to hope for no freezing weather! Unless you like those mini corn things for your stir fry dinners!

LOL on the KKK, they are nasty bunch of people. Enuff said about them!

I plant dent corn, not sweet and early maturing kind so if it is a long summer it can be done
 
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no harm lots of fowl.

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In parts of Israel, they get 16 cuttings of alfalfa a year off the same field. LOL! I believe that's around the sea of galilee.

There's another reason people have been fighting over that land for centuries.....

but back to gay pride week....
 
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No no no, I think I may have expressed myself wrongly there. My friends are just more open, and I agree with the statements above completely. Sorry if I offended you
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Oh heavens no, absolutely no offense taken. Very good topic.

Thank you for understanding... And I've thought of this all day in how to explain without getting into topics not allowed on the forum.. But I think when most folks ask, they aren't talking sexuality but who plays what gender role or if it is shared.

I know the ladies on here are about to horse whip me, but in my house I go to work, I drive the tractor around, cut down trees, man the grill on weekends and call the favored spot on the couch every saturday during college football season... My wife cooks, cleans and runs the kids around while I'm at work.. helps with homework etc...

Am I oinking yet?

With some folk like my friend Beth, it's easy to see. She walks like, talks like and acts like a guy.. With her girlfriend or some of our mutual friends its def not obvious. So I think the question has less to do with sexuality but how the relationship is split up.. (and most hetero folks are used to thinking male gender roles, female gender roles) in the most general terms.

Hopefully I haven't made this worse, but that's what I was thinking when I typed on the subject earlier.
 
No, it's interesting to see how different people think about it. I think there is a lot of variety in who-does-what and what kind of roles people take on in any groups. At almost sixty, I'm still learning something new about people every day. For some reason people just tell me things...I just never have to ask anything. Looking like a little grey haired hobbit doesn't hurt, LOL.

I think I've know two very, very different groups of gay people - the folks I met in college who were as almost all college kids are, into being outrageous and open, and I think, very ofte unsettled and trying to find their place in the world, and the folks I've met professionally, most of whom have gone through many decades of having to live very privately and carefully. It's quite a contrast.

It's kind of sad in a way what the business world makes us do, keep things secret and be afraid. Exciting and challenging work, very creative (I love catching bad guys by working on the fraud squad) but oh boy...some of the things people have to do to survive.

In so many years, I worked for a lot of big corporations, if I recall, I have only worked at one company where there was an 'obviously gay' person in the department, all those years...'what a long, strange trip it's been....'

It's kind of strange, isn't it? Think of all the progress that has been made in my lifetime - independence for India, the Berlin Wall coming down, so much wonderful new technology...yet in some ways, in some areas, we're so slow to change...
 
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I do think it is sad that many had to live in utter secrecy. I grew up in a house where my parents took in foster kids, folks who were down on their luck and out of a job/house, and I didn't know what racism/biggotry was until I was beaten within an inch of my life and my parents had to explain it to me... So I do sort of under stand your views (I think here is a slight age gap between us) Hopefully the world keeps becoming more open and accepting of people.
 
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I went to the NYC Parade when I lived there back in the 90's. It was really fun, very festive and crazy (fun-crazy, not dangerous-crazy). I'm thinking it will be *extra* joyous now that same sex marriage has been passed there. Lots of reason to celebrate. Bring sunblock though! I remember I got massively burned being out there and distracted all day. Hope anyone who goes has a blast.
 
I hope this post doesn't end up removed, though not sure why it would be.

I live in NY. I have lots of gay/lesbian/transgendered friends. It doesn't even phase me.
What did phase me though, was 2 years ago, when I gave birth to my first child, who upon birth it was told to me "we're not sure if your baby is a boy or a girl, so for now we'll refer to the baby as 'the baby'...don't name the baby, you might not want to tell anyone about the baby, etc". After 4 days of tests, we were told that she has an intersex condition, and that we'd have to assign her gender.

I am thankful everyday that I DO live in a city/state where, even though we have used some discretion, everyone around me, and her knows exactly what she's got going on and treats her completely normally. No, she's not a hermaphrodite, you'll probably never meet one of those in your lifetime. And although her condition is about 1:250, 000, did you know that approximately 1 in 100 people are born with an intersex condition, and a vast majority will live and die without ever knowing? So, apparently as someone noted in another thread, God did NOT only creat Adam and Eve....(let me note, I am in no way religious, but this is to those who are)...he also created my Eliot (her name was chosen when we were told we were having a girl, and named her after a female character on Scrubs) and MILLIONS of other intersex people.

Anyway, we go every year to our local Buffalo pride, did before her birth, and will continue, though now it means a little more to me. And her too, even though she won't understand for some years.
I'm so proud every day to be her mom, and as I said before, so glad I'm surrounded by people that don't just support her but totally accept her.
 
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There is NOTHING like a mother who would LOVE and cherish her, regardless of her medical and sex gender. That is all important to her!
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Many cultures around the world, including those older than that source for "Adam and Eve", have recognized that there is more than just two categories of people (feminine women who desire men, and masculine men who desire women). Your child has a place in this world, and don't let anyone ever tell you different.

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