NY Gay Pride Weekend

[EweSheep]

I saw that on my FB, teach and I loved it! That is VERY true on that bullitin board! Kudos to that business!

 

[aggie9296]

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Well the enemies are no different...straight or gay, rich or poor. I am afraid I may be missing the point here.

I probably should not answer for aggie - but her/his comment got my attention as well. I think it meant that if she/he (and others) knew the folks who were bigoted/intolerant, that she/he would/could avoid having dealings with them in the future... That the bigoted/intolerant = the "enemy"

While I don't choose to have personal friends who are unkind, bigoted, unaccepting of differences, I don't think I'd want to know folks' personal biases. As long as people are respectful in their behaviors toward others here on BYC, that's good enough for me for on-line interactions

You made my point for me. But if people are making hateful comments, they are no longer being respectful towards others. And I DO wnat to knwo those personal biases. We see it in the political discussions all the time.

I would like to see who is making the hateful comments or doing the gay bashing. I don't necessarily want to hear the comments, but I want to know where the hate is coming from.

That way, if I choose to, I can avoid further discussions where those people are involved. I can also spend my dollars elsewhere when I know someone has such hateful or ugly beliefs about me or my family.

I do the same for people who get radically crazy at any topic. Regardless of the topic. I don't mind differing opinions. That is the point to debate and lively forums, such as this one. But when someone gets off-the-wall wacko about some topic, I leave it alone and move on.

But if I see poster X saying "all gay people should be killed," or similar venom, I will avoid them like the plague in the future. And I sure as heck won't buy from them.

But I would like to know who is saying the nasty stuff. Even if the comment is deleted, the posters name could be left for all to see. Maybe a moderator could change the post to say "comment deleted due to personal attack" or bashing, or inappropriate comment, etc.

But, I DO understand why the moderators delete ugliness like that. This is a family friendly forum that should not be anyone's venue for personal attack.

 

[EweSheep]

I've got FB friends that are very against gay community and they would do some Bible thumping verses...I ignore those posts. They know how exactly I feel and there is NOTHING they can do about it to change gay's preferences. Sometimes people have a twisted up, disortered views about gays and in reality, gay is here, now and will be in the future as the numbers are growing. The gay folks don't go around preaching to us, straight folks, why their preferences are better than ours and why we should be like them. Let the sleeping dogs lie, nothing worse than a mean dog that would snap at every opporunity at will whenever you decide to cross their territory.

 

[NYboy]

Aggie I can understand your wanting to boycott your gay dollars from people anti gay. The moderators have worked very hard on this post. I think it is very important to keep this friendly, by not deleteing it would get very ugly and be locked down.

 

[Urban Chaos]

I've been reading this thread since its inception, and wanted to share this story. Its a true - kinda funny event .

My cousin got a sex change several years ago (he to she). My grandmother and her parents are very very catholic. Her parents were so ashamed that and were mortified that my grandmother would never recover from this (awful in their view) news. They made sure said cousin had no interaction with grandma. That is what crushed grandma, no contact what so ever for several years

Finally one of my aunts couldn't take it anymore and told grandma why said cousin had not seen or spoken to her. Grandma (87 yr old) was indeed shocked - but not for the reasons you may think. She had known the whole time (as had most family members) that her grandchild was not strait. In fact, she even mentioned that in (at least Hispanic culture) there had always been men who dressed like women and vice versa and that it was perhaps not spoken about, but that it was not unusual for some people to never marry (if you get my drift). Anyway, several years later, there is no one in my family who is not accepting of my cousin, even her parents have come around. She is a very successful business owner and very active in her church and community.


Anyway, on behalf of my GBLT friends and family, I thank the mods for keeping this thread open.

I was sent pics of the pride rally in NY from a friend who attended - if her pics captured the true spirit of the rally, it was a blast!

 

[EweSheep]

Another question....religion and gay community.

What kind of preacher or man of cloth would divert the "hard core" straigtness to "ok to gay lifestyle"? Are they gay themselves? Or they have a "goal" in mind to try to convert these gay folks to "straightness" in a perverted, sly way of doing it?

What kind of sermons would they use? Do they avoid "anti gay" sermons or verses? Or do they have their own Bible that is gay friendly?

See, I have much to learn!

 

[Inkheart]

There really is only one Bible - and i think that people no matter who they are or what they worship - pick and use certains parts of the bible. Now as i was growing up the religion we followed we were taught all are Gods children and all the same - to love each there - so there never was discussion of straight or otherwise

 

[Urban Chaos]

I know in my cousins case, she probably has not "come out" as being transgender to her current church. I do know that she has gone from growing up catholic to leaving the church, to going back. In her case, she does believes that judgment is passed by God and God only. Remember that not all religions believe the same way about homosexuality as others, and even within the same religion there are shades of tolerance. Thats as far as I'll go as I've never been a part of nor understood organized religion.

 

[EweSheep]

Thanks! Or they prefer agnostic, pagan or just don't follow anything. Nothing wrong with it! It's the man of cloth that I was curious about, why he would go against his college teaching at a bible or preacher school and change into wanting to lead the path of good faith for the gays that wanted religion in their lives.

 

[Inkheart]

I agree it comes down to the religion and what they believe not all believe the same.