Obama Adressing All School Children In Us . Propaganda Or What?

[WalkingWolf]

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Which one? BRAIN DAMAGE??!!!! LOL That was my first guess....

Depending on what he is planning on saying would be the difference to me. I haven't heard anything about it yet so I can't make a decision but pretty much anything Obama has to say makes my head hurt.......those poor kids....

I was thinking along the lines of 'Brick in the Wall'. But was afraid to say it.

I remember JFK having a strong influence in school as a small child, and many programs that benefited children. I do not remember and do not think it is right that he address children especially young children, without parents consent. This is much like the score boards and other school logistics being provided by companies like Pepsi, and Coke. I know of only one other leader who used such strategies, and in the same context.

 

[texasgal]

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"Mr.... Obama .... leave those kids alone"

 

[ducks4you]

BTW, I am from Illinois where Barak played politics in Chicago. Illinois is a center for educational ideas across the nation, so none of us who live here are surprised.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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"Mr.... Obama .... leave those kids alone"

Eggsxactamundo

 

[karl lutz]

If a child can leave the room for the pledge of alegience because of the under God reference. Said child shouild be free to leave the room if asked to support the pres. He is no better than any one of us as citizens. We are all created equal. His dream and my dream are not the same, as I have worked for all I have, and I grew up in this country. I agree with the manipulative statement!

 

[WalkingWolf]

As much as I hate, loath, think there is no place for drugs, I had a very big problem with programs that encouraged students to turn in their parents for drug use, even if it was minor drug use. This was done under a president I voted for, our children are not pawns and I fear where this is headed. If we do not remember history we are doomed to repeat it.

We already have been asked by this administration to spy on our neighbors on the internet. There is a bill Senate bill S773 giving the president complete control of the internet. I do believe history is repeating itself.

 

[Chickenmaven]

Lutz: "I have worked for all I have, and I grew up in this country."

Obama has NOT worked for what he has???????? Last time I checked, Hawaii is part of our country!

 

[Chickenmaven]

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Oh Honey, Mr. Bush was spying on you for years!

 

[Mojo Chick'n]

Hmmmmm.... and again hmmmmm.....

On the one hand, I dislike the current administration (and the last one, also, for that matter, so no, I am not being a bigot

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on the other hand, I guess it would depend on the age of the children, and what materials they are expected to work with after the speech. (I have yet to go and look at the links - this is the first I have heard of this speech, to be honest with you all.)

a middle school child can better make up their own mind than a 2nd or 4th grader can. Many children of the younger ages do as they are told by authority (in whatever form authority takes). I would not have a problem with my older children seeing/hearing this speech but would probably have a problem with (and would at the very least be present) a younger child doing so.

My children are all older - and have made up their minds on politics for themselves, regardless of what their father and I believe. (this doesn't mean they disagree with us, just that they came to their own conclusions by talking with their peers and keeping their minds open and informed.). I am actually sort of amazed how politically informed high school kids are these days - I don't recall it being that big of an issue when I was in high school.

another hhmmmm to consider....
wasn't it Hitler who said "Give me a child until the age of 8 years old and he is mine forever" (paraphrased).

meri

 

[citrusdreams]

I read the activities, and I still don't see anything wrong with it

I especially liked this set of activities for the little ones:

Extension of the Speech
Teachers could extend learning by having students:
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Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus first on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals can be more readily created.
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Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals. Teachers would collect and redistribute these letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to monitor their progress.
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Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.
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Interview one another and share goals with the class to create a supportive community.
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Participate in school‐wide incentive programs or contests for those students who achieve their goals.
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Write about their goals in a variety of genres, such as poems, songs, and personal essays.
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Create artistic projects based on the themes of their goals.
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Graph individual progress toward goals.


It seems to be a nice structured way for them to think about their educational goals and their future, in addition to working as a team with their fellow-students.