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[shelbydog]

I'm with mitzi on it might be cocci killing the chicks. Mine had rust colored poo when a cocci outbreak occurred in my brooder box.

Are the chicks puffed up or look disheveled?

On the corid vs sulmet, I thought I read corid treats more strains than sulmet. I'll have to Google that again.

 

[ashtree]

@ashtree you're not dealing with mites or lice if you've got dead chicks every day, it's something else. Do they have runny stools? Bloody? They can have coccidia without bloody stools for the record. That would be my #1 bet. People will tell you it's not coccidia without blood in their stools but that's dangerous inaccurate information and too many people put off treating them until it's too late because of that info. As far as DE-I've gotten too many chicks/birds in the past crawling with lice or mites who's owners have used "DE because it's natural". If natural worked there wouldn't be Seven Dust or Frontline.
I would get some Sulmet ASAP. Not Corid as it's not near as effective and doesn't kill as many strains of coccidia as Sulmet. Get actual Sulmet (which is the same stuff as Albon if you have any of that around from other pets).
That's my 2 cents that's probably only worth a penney.

Oh man. I'm looking all this up now. Thanks for the info. We did end up putting sevin dust on the babies. They are as far as I can tell bug free. I'm sending my husband to the store now.

I'm with mitzi on it might be cocci killing the chicks. Mine had rust colored poo when a cocci outbreak occurred in my brooder box.

Are the chicks puffed up or look disheveled?

On the corid vs sulmet, I thought I read corid treats more strains than sulmet. I'll have to Google that again.

They definitely looked disheveled. And yes to the rust colored poo.

 

[shelbydog]

Oh man. I'm looking all this up now. Thanks for the info. We did end up putting sevin dust on the babies. They are as far as I can tell bug free. I'm sending my husband to the store now.
They definitely looked disheveled. And yes to the rust colored poo.

You need to treat them all for cocci.

 

[Kassaundra]

You need to treat them all for cocci.

X2

 

[Kyzmette]

Ashtree, I would be happy to donate some healthy chicks, but I'm too far away. Lord knows I have plenty to give you.

 

[ashtree]

Do I need to treat the outside chickens as well? And the ones in a separate cage? I don't mind doing it all just want to make sure it wouldn't hurt to treat them if they are healthy.

Can I get mad at the seller now? Serious question by the way.

 

[Kassaundra]

Do I need to treat the outside chickens as well? And the ones in a separate cage? I don't mind doing it all just want to make sure it wouldn't hurt to treat them if they are healthy.

Can I get mad at the seller now? Serious question by the way.

Usually adult birds have built immunity. The best cared for chicks can get cocci.

 

[Kyzmette]

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You should definitely communicate with the seller that all the chicks had cocci and are dying, but cocci is fairly common in young birds. All chickens have this bacteria in their gut, and sometimes stress is enough to set it off. I would let the seller know, because it may be the conditions the seller is keeping them in, but it may also be that they were distressed enough that it just happened. The seller may want to make things right and give you more chicks. If not, after dealing with chickens long enough, you will find that the best thing is to let it go and deal with people you trust when it comes to chicks. You'll want to see where they keep their chicks, or buy chicks that are older than a day or two old, so you can be sure they'll survive past those first crucial days. You should only have to treat the outside chickens if they had contact with the little ones, but the older ones should be safe if they've had no contact or they're healthy to begin with. It shouldn't hurt to treat them with Corid, if you feel safer to do so. After you've given them the antibiotics, be sure to give them plenty of plain (not flavored or sweetened) yogurt, because they'll need it to rebalance the good bacteria in their digestive systems. It's not uncommon to treat a flock for bacterial infections, then lose them to secondary infections afterward because they couldn't fight it off.

 

[ashtree]

We got the corid. So we literally give them 1 drop a day? Am I reading this right?

 

[ashtree]

Quote: Ok. Thank you for the sound advice. We always have yoghurt on hand, I start that on day 6 after the 5 day treatment? I really want these remaining 4 babies to live.