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[Kassaundra]

This thicket has been there for many years it has never had fruit.

 

[NanaKat]

Any ideas on this tree or woody bush

This may be a Morus microphylla Buckl - Texas Mulberry or also known as Mexican Mulberry and Mountain Mulberry. Young trees will have the elongated lobed leaf. Small tree or clump-forming shrub with a variable leaf shape. Can grow to 20 feet with an 8 inch diameter trunk. Edible fruit will be 1/2 inch long and sylindrical red to purple or black in late spring.

Any ideas on this tree id







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Is this an elm????


Do sand plums have thorns on the trunks????

The first is an oak...most likely is Quercus velutina Lam. or Black oak ( not Black Jack) Leaves on mature trees can be 5 - 10 inches long, 3 - 8 inches wide , shallow or deeply lobed. acorns will be produced within 2 years. The underside of the leaves will be lighter and have a downy surface.

yes, that is an elm. perhaps White elm - Ulmus Americana L. Can't tell from the stem if that may be a Winged elm or "lacebarked" elm. That would be obvious on older stem areas.

Here are pics of the mystery tree / shrub



Here is part of the thicket



Here are the spikey thorns, they are only on the older wood



Little out of focus, but you can see the color of the stem and how leaves form on it.




And a close up of the leaves themselves

Any ideas?

Definitely a plum thicket. There are actually several varieties on Okla....They spread by root runners and can grow as tall as 10 - 20 feet in good soil. Usually found in brushy areas or unplowed fields. Most have some type of thorn or spike.

Chickasaw Plum - Prunus augustifolia Marsh. leaves are narrow, pointed at each end and sharply toothed smooth shiney and bright green 1 - 2 inches long with a red leaf stem - petioles Flowers in March before leaves. Fruit is nearly round 1/2 inch in diameter bright red or yellow ripening in mid summer. Flesh is slightly acid

Prunus Americana Marsh, oval to slightly obovate leaves...Often destitute of "bloom" yet can have 1 inch round red slightly sour edible fruit. Spikes end on short twigs.

Prunus lanata Mack & Bush, shorter broader leaves with deep crimson fruit located first in Blaine County

Prunus hortulana Bailey, a wild goose plum with oblong-obovate to oblong-oval leaves 4 - 6 inches long and 1 - 1.5 wide. Fruit is 3/4 - 1 inch deep red with pale dots or yellow blotches. found in eastern Oklahoma

Prunus munsoniana Wright & Hedrick wild plum or Munson Cherry with eliptic to lanceolate leaves. oval red fruit with orange shoulders, rarely yellow fruit. Found in eastern Okla..reported from Garfield County

Two others are found in western Oklahoma and then there is the "Big Tree Plum" A single tree plum Prunus Mexicana Wats. Mexican Plum or Mexican Cherry. Oblong leaves abruptly long-pointed. Fruit is dark ourple-red 1.25 -1.33 inches by 1 - 1.25.

 

[NanaKat]

We are going to pick plums on our 160 tomorrow....there are some thickets with no plums, a few thickets with a few plums and two thickets are are simply loaded. We get both red plums in most thickets and yellow plums off only two.
We also have the single Big Tree Plum. It is supposed to fruit later in the summer, but we have never been able to gather from them...the fruit falls off before ripening or the birds get the few fruit that make it.

All of our wild plums have some type of thorn. I'll take my camera and take photos.... and plenty of chigger/tick/mosquito spray and sun screen.

My MIL advised me once that growing up in SE Okla they always picked plums and made up juice when there were plums "because plums don't make for many years".

 

[Kassaundra]

Thanks NanaK, and everyone else helping my id these plants. I really thought it was a plum thicket, but never have seen a plum in 15 years. ( about 7 years of it being as big and thick as it right now)


I am sooooo hoping that is a mulberry. The only mulberry I know of close doesn't look anything like that one, but mulberry is such a good high protein forage for the rabbits.

I've noticed a few bird or squirrel planted sapling oaks around this year.

 

[miohippus]

Here are pics of the mystery tree / shrub



Here is part of the thicket



Here are the spikey thorns, they are only on the older wood



Little out of focus, but you can see the color of the stem and how leaves form on it.




And a close up of the leaves themselves




Any ideas?

oh, yep looks like a sand plum to me it has the short spikie limbs that they have leaves comeing of then some times that is why don't think of them as thorns.

 

[mjgigax]

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Mitzi,
Those all are beautiful birds.
This girl is amazing!

 

[subhanalah]

Two hawks yesterday, three today, arrived much earlier in the day today.

 

[greenbeetle]

Question, there is a rooster that comes around my property from across a pasture, it is a game rooster with large spurs, for the most part it just stays out side my fenced in area. Well this afternoon my laying hens where out free ranging and I have a LF Cochin Rooster that ranges with them, I was in the house doing some things and looked out the window and the game rooster was in the yard. I went out side and my cochin rooster was gone, looked and looked and finally found him under the deck. He has been beaten up pretty bad and one eye is swollen shut (I am so so mad). Should I give him Tylan or anything to help with his injuries? All I can say is if i get my hands on that game rooster his is a goner. My cochin rooster is a large show quality bird which I have just fallen in love with, he is awesome with his girls and I know he tried to protect them. He is walking around and acting normal for the most part. Any advise would be helpful. Thanks

 

[subhanalah]

Question, there is a rooster that comes around my property from across a pasture, it is a game rooster with large spurs, for the most part it just stays out side my fenced in area.  Well this afternoon my laying hens where out free ranging and I have a LF Cochin Rooster that ranges with them,   I was in the house doing some things and looked out the window and the game rooster was in the yard.  I went out side and my cochin rooster was gone, looked and looked and finally found him under the deck.  He has been beaten up pretty bad and one eye is swollen shut (I am so so mad).  Should I give him Tylan or anything to help with his injuries?  All I can say is if i get my hands on that game rooster his is a goner.  My cochin rooster is a large show quality bird which I have just fallen in love with, he is awesome with his girls and I know he tried to protect them.  He is walking around and acting normal for the most part.  Any advise would be helpful.  Thanks

Poor gentle giant.

 

[ashtree]

Question, there is a rooster that comes around my property from across a pasture, it is a game rooster with large spurs, for the most part it just stays out side my fenced in area.  Well this afternoon my laying hens where out free ranging and I have a LF Cochin Rooster that ranges with them,   I was in the house doing some things and looked out the window and the game rooster was in the yard.  I went out side and my cochin rooster was gone, looked and looked and finally found him under the deck.  He has been beaten up pretty bad and one eye is swollen shut (I am so so mad).  Should I give him Tylan or anything to help with his injuries?  All I can say is if i get my hands on that game rooster his is a goner.  My cochin rooster is a large show quality bird which I have just fallen in love with, he is awesome with his girls and I know he tried to protect them.  He is walking around and acting normal for the most part.  Any advise would be helpful.  Thanks

I am so so sorry. That makes me so upset. Who are the owners of the game rooster? Do they know their chicken has crossed the line? Literally. I don't think I would do antibiotics but I sure would clean those wounds. Colloidal silver maybe?