Guess it was my turn to kill the thread....I'll go shower and use deodorant, promise!
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Don't know of any rehabbers, Good luck! looks like you're the "momma now"
Don't know of any rehabbers, Good luck! looks like you're the "momma now"
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Without a biopsy to determine cell structure, I can only guess they are either tumors or calcified eggs. There is no blood supply to the masses so I don't think it is cancer.
Chances are it was neither. Those lumps could be hardend pus from an infection that has been ongoing for a long time and solidified just like the infection under the rooster's eye did. Even if she had passed these and survived it probably damaged her reproductive enough to where at the least she would have devoloped E.Y.P. (internal laying)
Without a biopsy to determine cell structure, I can only guess they are either tumors or calcified eggs. There is no blood supply to the masses so I don't think it is cancer.
Chances are it was neither. Those lumps could be hardend pus from an infection that has been ongoing for a long time and solidified just like the infection under the rooster's eye did. Even if she had passed these and survived it probably damaged her reproductive enough to where at the least she would have devoloped E.Y.P. (internal laying)
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It seemed like whenever something broke down it was always inclement weather. A rear went out of one of the trucks one night in a place called Bouse Junction up in NW Ok. When we got there at about midnight it was just starting to snow and by the time we got the tools unloaded to get the truck ready to be towed in it was a full blown blizzard with winds in the 40mph range and it was snowing so hard that we could not see the pick-up from the back of the semi and if you laid down a tool it was just a lump in the snow in seconds.
I have no idea what the wind chill was that night but when we left Enid it was 20F. Laying under that rig was like being in a wind tunnel and the snow felt like BBs hitting any exposed skin. We were out in it for about three hours until the wrecker got there and got hooked up and we got back to Enid just in time to start another day.
I have seen days so cold that the diesel fuel in the tanks would gel up and be semi-solid. You could stand a shovel up in the tank. And you know what? I really do miss going out and doing that stuff. LOL
It seemed like whenever something broke down it was always inclement weather. A rear went out of one of the trucks one night in a place called Bouse Junction up in NW Ok. When we got there at about midnight it was just starting to snow and by the time we got the tools unloaded to get the truck ready to be towed in it was a full blown blizzard with winds in the 40mph range and it was snowing so hard that we could not see the pick-up from the back of the semi and if you laid down a tool it was just a lump in the snow in seconds.
I have no idea what the wind chill was that night but when we left Enid it was 20F. Laying under that rig was like being in a wind tunnel and the snow felt like BBs hitting any exposed skin. We were out in it for about three hours until the wrecker got there and got hooked up and we got back to Enid just in time to start another day.
I have seen days so cold that the diesel fuel in the tanks would gel up and be semi-solid. You could stand a shovel up in the tank. And you know what? I really do miss going out and doing that stuff. LOL
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I'm da*n sure not an expert, I just have dying birds
But the L & S in "L-S 50" stands for lincomycin-spectinomycin-so you're right-that's what they use and that's what mine are on now. It's powder I'm mixing in the water. The other Cochin babies (14 wks now) still look and act so good and the Silkies (16 wks) are all acting good. My little Cochin pullet I've had to the vet 3 times probably won't make it another 12 hrs, same with my daughter's pet cockeral. I've wracked my brain trying to figure out the best way to deal with this. I've got big round pans with bleach and water that I step in before I go into each chicken's area. The Cochin babies are completely isolated in their pen but they always have been. I'm raking up every speck of poop in their pen all the time and am going to continually spray down with Oxine in there, their coop, change shavings in their coop every day if I have to. He said to be prepared because I was going to lose more. But I'm hoping he's wrong.
What makes me just sick is the Cochin pen really is isolated and the most protected one. *I* brought this crap into their pen on my shoes. That's hard to swallow.
Could you please describe their droppings in detail? Color and consistancey? That is often the best indication of what is wrong.
Also if you would smell the breath of the birds that are sick. I mean it shouldn't be minty fresh but if it smells rotten then they could have sour crop and a bacterial thing going on. If it smells like something died inside of them then they could have Coryza.
I'm not sure either if Carl mentioned this but always take care of the youngest birds first and then progress to the older ones by age. Never take care of mature birds and then move to younger ones.
Another thing is that you will never catch an illness in a chicken early. To keep flock status they are expert at hiding an illness. Don't blame yourself for this as it could have been a single dropping from a wild bird that started this.
Most research has been done on chicken illness for the commercial grower where it is more cost effective to cull an entire barn and start over. That is why there are few meds that have been cleared for chickens, the research just hasn't been done.
I'm da*n sure not an expert, I just have dying birds
But the L & S in "L-S 50" stands for lincomycin-spectinomycin-so you're right-that's what they use and that's what mine are on now. It's powder I'm mixing in the water. The other Cochin babies (14 wks now) still look and act so good and the Silkies (16 wks) are all acting good. My little Cochin pullet I've had to the vet 3 times probably won't make it another 12 hrs, same with my daughter's pet cockeral. I've wracked my brain trying to figure out the best way to deal with this. I've got big round pans with bleach and water that I step in before I go into each chicken's area. The Cochin babies are completely isolated in their pen but they always have been. I'm raking up every speck of poop in their pen all the time and am going to continually spray down with Oxine in there, their coop, change shavings in their coop every day if I have to. He said to be prepared because I was going to lose more. But I'm hoping he's wrong.
What makes me just sick is the Cochin pen really is isolated and the most protected one. *I* brought this crap into their pen on my shoes. That's hard to swallow.
Could you please describe their droppings in detail? Color and consistancey? That is often the best indication of what is wrong.
Also if you would smell the breath of the birds that are sick. I mean it shouldn't be minty fresh but if it smells rotten then they could have sour crop and a bacterial thing going on. If it smells like something died inside of them then they could have Coryza.
I'm not sure either if Carl mentioned this but always take care of the youngest birds first and then progress to the older ones by age. Never take care of mature birds and then move to younger ones.
Another thing is that you will never catch an illness in a chicken early. To keep flock status they are expert at hiding an illness. Don't blame yourself for this as it could have been a single dropping from a wild bird that started this.
Most research has been done on chicken illness for the commercial grower where it is more cost effective to cull an entire barn and start over. That is why there are few meds that have been cleared for chickens, the research just hasn't been done.
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Yes it will kill all bacteria... Thats why probiotics is necessary!
So you wouldn't want to give it profalactically (sp) but only if there is a problem, but clean w/ it regularly, correct?
Yes it will kill all bacteria... Thats why probiotics is necessary!
So you wouldn't want to give it profalactically (sp) but only if there is a problem, but clean w/ it regularly, correct?
Baby squirrel is drinking well from a syringe. She holds onto it with her hands while she drinks & reaches for more when I pull away. Put a teeny tiny drop of puppy vitamins on it's tounge. Emailed a few rehabbers. Maybe someone will take it, thinking I can nurse it just fine, but I am not sure how to teach it to forage for it's own food!
Dh also shot a coyote a few minutes ago.
10 keets have hatched so far
It was such as exciting day on the farm!
Will be in Okc all day tomorrow, so hope the kids can nurse the squirrel.
Dh also shot a coyote a few minutes ago.
10 keets have hatched so far
It was such as exciting day on the farm!
Will be in Okc all day tomorrow, so hope the kids can nurse the squirrel.
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Don't know of any rehabbers, Good luck! looks like you're the "momma now"
check with these folks- http://www.wildheartranch.org/
they should be able to connect you with someone-- until then, get some kitten or puppy formula, that should tide him over
Don't know of any rehabbers, Good luck! looks like you're the "momma now"
check with these folks- http://www.wildheartranch.org/
they should be able to connect you with someone-- until then, get some kitten or puppy formula, that should tide him over
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