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Thanks for the info. By a 6 gal tank under the sink, do you mean one with a 6 gal tank? I was looking on ebay and found some tankless under sink models for what I thought VERY reasonable prices. I was toying with the idea of getting one for under the sink that would run both the sink and the washer since they are very close to each other.
Also, can you use the same vent for a tankless that you were using for one with a tank? I would definately get a natural gas heater if we decide to get one.

You have to be very carefull with the individual undersink tankless, they will only raise the water temp a set amount at best that is often 40 degrees and at that they have a significant decrease in flow rate to support the temp gain. Not bad for bathroom use but the Kitchen you want 120 degree water for washing dishes, pots pans etc.

The low temp gain from say 50 degree supply water and a gain of 40 will only give you 90 degree water which still feels cool to the touch and will not sterilze anything, not bad for washing hands in bathroom using soap, but not good for sterilizing dishes.

Oh wow... thanks for that advice. I absolutely can't stand cold hot water in the kitchen. Everytime DH tries to turn down the thermostat on the hotwater tank and I run water for the dishes... I can tell! Are there small models that can get the water hotter that you know of? Guess I'll be doing some research....
 
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You have to be very carefull with the individual undersink tankless, they will only raise the water temp a set amount at best that is often 40 degrees and at that they have a significant decrease in flow rate to support the temp gain. Not bad for bathroom use but the Kitchen you want 120 degree water for washing dishes, pots pans etc.

The low temp gain from say 50 degree supply water and a gain of 40 will only give you 90 degree water which still feels cool to the touch and will not sterilze anything, not bad for washing hands in bathroom using soap, but not good for sterilizing dishes.

Oh wow... thanks for that advice. I absolutely can't stand cold hot water in the kitchen. Everytime DH tries to turn down the thermostat on the hotwater tank and I run water for the dishes... I can tell! Are there small models that can get the water hotter that you know of? Guess I'll be doing some research....

Unfortunately there is no small model that will really meet the needs of a kitchen very well. It is better and actually much more cost effective even in normal circustances to place a simple 5-6 gallon electric hot water tank under teh kitchen sink and set it at 125 degrees. You can then adjust the thermostat down on your other tank and save a considerable amount of energy and water both.
For the normal family anyway that will work. the small tank will pay for itself within 1 year in electrical savings alone, and there is no wait for hot water at the kitchen sink.

Any unit you find that will heat beyond a 40 degrees gain, and more than 1 gallon per minute at that type of heat gain will require in excess of 100 amps of electric at 240 volts.
 
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I kind of thought that. I think I will put the oyster shell on the ground. Then buy some normal chicken pellets. I will separate the grit on the ground also. They seem to like everything on the ground better then in a dish, so I put a dish in the coop and some food on the ground outside the coop. If I have a roo I think I will have to find a new home for him. My neighbors might get upset if he crows allot, and since I'm limited to 12 chickens in town I don't want babies.

You should limit the calcium to a degree, if they are getting layer pellets they have all teh calcium they need. too high calcium levels will cause a decreased life span, kidney failure and other problems. Keep teh birds on a grower until point of lay. Once you start to get pullet eggs switch them to a layer.

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I think the guy I got them from said the oldest has layed eggs, but with winter and me not using any supplemental lighting she has stopped. I will go get grower pellets tomorrow and use that untill I see an actual egg. I will cut out the oyster shell. Thanks for all the advice. Everybody on this list makes raising chickens so much easier for a newbie.
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Ok new question.
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I have medicated starter grower. I have heard in the past that it can be really bad for adult chickens. Or maybe I heard its bad for the eggs. Vanessa, my oldest looks like a grown chicken. Will the medication hurt her?
 
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Evening Folks!

Today has been a busy and eventful day. I am plus one mini rooster, who is so darn sweet (thanks June) and minus two wisdom teeth. Not going to be on long, the anesthesia is wearing off and the pain medication has not kicked in yet, plus I am just exhausted. On the upside I had the perfect excuse for a milk shake dinner.
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I believe for those who are looking there is an auction in Newcastle this weekend. Not sure I am going to make it. Already backed out of date plans, auction would probably not be a good idea either.

Hope everyone has a good evening!
 
We had chili Mac for dinner. Getting my sisters kids into bed & think we may watch a movie.

Anyone that groupons there today's deal is a wine making class in Moore. I might buy one for dh & I.

Tomorrow suppose to be another windy day. Plan on getting some stuff done outside, until the wind beats us down. Think I have a few hundred pounds of acorns in the ground. Going to work on gathering some up, deer will eat them & kids make crafts out of them.

If there is an auction tomorrow we might try to go. Dh was asking me earlier so if he insist on taking me to a chicken auction I guess I won't fuss.
 

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