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[Kassaundra]

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With the rain coming down - and since I don't have any indoor roosters to wake me up with their crowing - it was a great morning to sleep later than usual.

How funny, alarm cclock with extra attitude.

Have you found the snooze button?

 

[Ksane]

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Mine would like to be called matronly, if you don't mind

 

[Poco Pollo]

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No. I figured out what instruments were required and bought them individually from a surgical supply warehouse. The more I read about caponizing sets the more I've come to believe that the best are no longer made. Rather than buy the Nasco set, I opted to put together a surgical set that is more functional. I've got #10 and #15 scalpel blades and appropriate handles. I want to get a #7 (round) handle as well. I have a locking retractor (scissor type construction used in ear, nose, and throat surgeries) to use as a rib spreader rather than a coiled spring with a band slid up or down to control the width of the spread, honest-to-goodness tissue forceps rather than tweezers, and I'm making a horse-hair elevator for capturing, lifting, and removing the testicles. I'm still studying Bovie electrocautery equipment and will probably get a set that's battery operated and has replaceable fine tips. I've read several glowing accounts of the disposable Bovie pens, but I want something that will last. It's a tool to increase livability after the procedure, so I'm willing to spend sixty or seventy dollars on the set rather than fifteen or twenty on a disposable cautery.

 

[banjoejoe4783]

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That's what I was hoping to hear from someone 1st hand. I'd dearly love to have one of those and some hens. I don't know when but I'm going to get some.

If u have shamos that are true game, and not hatchery stock, the roosters definitely don't get along, and many hens don't get along. Sometimes the hens and cocks don't even get along, and can only be put together under supervision, and for short times only. True games are not easy to keep and raise. Oriental games are very people friendly, but oeg or American game are not ppl aggressive, any serious breeder would cull a ppl aggressive bird faster than u can spit.

ceace fighting is NOT LEGAL anny ture breed lover would breed for standerd "stance and size" not agreseve traits just as you can breed for anny other traits these are DEFANTLY NOT hatchery stock and the breeder that brought these shamos razes the younger birds in group pens and has more troble with his hens eating the roos feathers that the stags being agresive but ceace they breed shamos the are to standerd not agrresive traites

 

[Kassaundra]

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No. I figured out what instruments were required and bought them individually from a surgical supply warehouse. The more I read about caponizing sets the more I've come to believe that the best are no longer made. Rather than buy the Nasco set, I opted to put together a surgical set that is more functional. I've got #10 and #15 scalpel blades and appropriate handles. I want to get a #7 (round) handle as well. I have a locking retractor (scissor type construction used in ear, nose, and throat surgeries) to use as a rib spreader rather than a coiled spring with a band slid up or down to control the width of the spread, honest-to-goodness tissue forceps rather than tweezers, and I'm making a horse-hair elevator for capturing, lifting, and removing the testicles. I'm still studying Bovie electrocautery equipment and will probably get a set that's battery operated and has replaceable fine tips. I've read several glowing accounts of the disposable Bovie pens, but I want something that will last. It's a tool to increase livability after the procedure, so I'm willing to spend sixty or seventy dollars on the set rather than fifteen or twenty on a disposable cautery.

I wasn't impressed w/ anyones experience (that I read anyway) w/ the nasco set, I wasn't even going to consider getting that, I did like the looks of the chinese one, but if I can't get it I'll probably buy pieces like you did.

I haven't done it yet, I am wanting to learn, my husband wants no part of it (doesn't care if I do it just doesn't want to be included at all) but he is also discouraging b/c he really doesn't think I can or will do it. ( Which is really way out of character for him, he is ususally very supportive and my biggest cheerleader

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[Okla-doodle-doo]

Good looking roo Joe! Those big tall breeds are really impressive!

poCo I am anxious to follow this new experiment of yours! That is fascinating about the silky Roos turning into setters! I have never heard of that. And I am trying to be good because there are so many funny leads that can be made from this! Lol


Well we are being true Okies and watching the OU and OSU game! Lots of shouting and arguing going on! Lol

 

[banjoejoe4783]

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thanks we are watching the game to its just a shame its so one sided

 

[Poco Pollo]

Kass - I'll take some pictures of the tools I have tomorrow and post them. You can google Adson tissue forceps, Weitlaner retractor, and SENN retractor for starters. I don't like the retractor in either set shown on the Chinese caponizing thread. It doesn't appear to have a one-handed locking mechanism. I want all my tools to be fully functional when held in one hand. The retractor in the set for small chckens (Chinese thread) looks a lot like a SENN retractor, but I can't tell if it's blunt or sharp. Mine is blunt and will mostly be used to assist the horse-hair elevator to prevent slips.

 

[Kassaundra]

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Awesome, thanks. I thought the chinese retractor was one hand use to lock and unlock, that's what I liked most about it, I need to watch the video again and check on that, although if the man doesn't respond it's a mute point.

 

[Bo Garrett]

Had a good show at Haynesville, LA today with about 700 birds shown. Jerry McCarty won the show with a Dark Cornish Bantam Cockerel. The breeding season begins tomorrow for our farm since the Shawnee show rejected our entry. The catalog didn't state a show limit of 2800 birds but I found out after the fact that the website catalog did. I'll still be at the show with some sale birds and visiting with good friends.

How about them Pokes!!!!! Hope the second half is as one sided, in the Pokes favor, as the first half was!!!!


Bo