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Sorry about the loss on your good laying hen, more than likely the warm water relaxed her thus the incident...
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For a cough and sore throat, I mix equal parts of honey, water, lemon juice and either bourbon or brandy. I add slivered almonds, then heat it all in the microwave. Drink it slowly as warm as you can and chew the almonds. Almonds have a tiny bit of arsenic in them, which is medicinal.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe microwaving the honey kills the part of honey that makes it beneficial. Do everything else, then, take a couple of spoonfuls of honey afterward.

The temperature to which you take the raw honey is what determines if you kill the "good stuff" in raw honey, which is the enzymes and pollen. You don't want to pasturize the honey, which is what occurs when you heat it above 140 degrees for 30 minutes. I microwave a quart of honey that has solidified, one minute at a time and stir it, to re-liquify it. You don't want to microwave it too long, because honey will scorch.

Since you are heating a very small amount of honey in the recipe given for sore throat, and sugar heats faster than water, I would recommend not microwaving it for more than 15 seconds at a time to achieve a hot temperature, which is the goal for the recipe.

So, microwaving in and of itself doesn't kill the enzymes, as long as you don't microwave it too hot or for too long.
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Well I bypassed the microwave completely. I brewed a pot in my electric tea kettle. I brewed the tea normally and added the honey afterwards. I am drinking some now. Marybeth don't take this personally, but I never have been a big fan of honey. I eat it occassionally, but not very often. I just hit the halfway mark in the jar I got from you last September.
 
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Hey Don, It is great having you back. I was just thinking about you yesterday and I was planning to give you a call to see how you are doing.
If you are wanting chickens again then I see that as a positive thing.
Again great to have you among us.

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HOODOO, It is definatly buyer beware. I have had Marans for several years and I have bought from different places and I have yet to get birds that lay that magical dark dark egg. I am just getting black coppers so I have to wait and see on them.
Some of my eggs are dark but not the"dark" kind that fetch the high prices.
It is like buying anything else. You have to know some background and feel comfortable in the assurance you get from the seller.
I bought some Marans from a guy and I was able to trace them back to a well known breeder in Florida. They were big beautiful birds and laid very well but the dark egg quality was very poor. I sold them and took a loss.
I personally wouldn't pay $50 bucks for any five week old bird unless I knew it was already laying solid gold eggs.
Just my nickles worth.
(My opinion used to be worth two cents but I had to adjust it due to inflation)
 
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lol ive been addicted to CL for a while..........no this guy keep wanting to trade fro a 200 egg incubator and he want to trade me 5 4week old black copper marrans and he sells the hens at laying age for 50 to 75 a piece.....i still dont think it is worth a 500 dollar bator.....howeve3r i thought you guys and ladies may have an idea.....as to what they are worth

I think I know of whom you speak. If you want good feather legged BC Marans ilovesilkies up in Claremore has them. But to answer your question truthfully a bird is worth what someone is willing to pay. I have seen Silkies from Hattrick Silkies go for over $1,000 on Eggbid and a dozen eggs from the same place bump 500.

Laying hens are going from 15-20 dollars each. The Marans are in the craze part of popularity right now. Like the pot-bellied pigs or the Ostrich in years gone by.

I have to agree ... the price of marans is high because of the fad of the very dark egg.

I haven't seen black copper marans chicks sell for more than around $15 each and that is too much in my opinion. Very good black copper eggs have been selling for around $60 a dozen. And that's for really dark eggs of at least a 7 or 8 on the marans egg scale.

I've seen black copper marans hens sell for as low as $17 each at the auctions. I hesitate in buying marans at an auction because unless you see the hen lay a really dark egg, you don't know how good she is.

I've bought marans hatching eggs from all over the country & have been disappointed in either the color of the egg I received or have found that after raising the chick to find that it doesn't lay a very dark egg. I have some really pretty, supposedly "marans" hens that lay a normal brown egg. Those hens will be sold, as soon as I figure out which ones they are. You cannot call a hen a marans unless it consistently lays an egg that's at least a 4 on the marans scale.

There's a couple of marans clubs in the USA. Here's one: http://maransofamericaclub.com/index.php
 
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difinetly understand the raising your prices......
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i have tried to let this gentleman down easy..........but he is persistant........this is what he said

Not black copper marans.
Do some research on google, ebay, eggbid.com, yahoo, ask.com.
You will see that fertile eggs sell for $124/dozen, non-fertile eggs sell for $5/dozen and that my prices are low for hatched/roo/hens/eggs.

They are of original french wade/jean blood line #4 color eggs.

Marans were illegally imported to states early 1900's from france.

Also there is an english breed, which has feathered legs...but the original wade/jean is very hard to come by.

Do some more research.
I have more hatching now as we speak, but if u still dont want to do business...thats fine, dont worry about it.
This is a small business on its own, since i recently lost my job, i had nothing to lose...now people are lining-up to buy a dozen fertile eggs for $100. And my pullets/$40, hens/$50-75, cockeral/$35, rooster/$50...
 
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe microwaving the honey kills the part of honey that makes it beneficial. Do everything else, then, take a couple of spoonfuls of honey afterward.

The temperature to which you take the raw honey is what determines if you kill the "good stuff" in raw honey, which is the enzymes and pollen. You don't want to pasturize the honey, which is what occurs when you heat it above 140 degrees for 30 minutes. I microwave a quart of honey that has solidified, one minute at a time and stir it, to re-liquify it. You don't want to microwave it too long, because honey will scorch.

Since you are heating a very small amount of honey in the recipe given for sore throat, and sugar heats faster than water, I would recommend not microwaving it for more than 15 seconds at a time to achieve a hot temperature, which is the goal for the recipe.

So, microwaving in and of itself doesn't kill the enzymes, as long as you don't microwave it too hot or for too long.
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Yeah, what she said.
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