Hey Monty, there are some people that raise the Runts just south of you I think, My memory leaves me but I will think of their names, uuuuhhhh James????? oh what ever, him and his wife were running the Giant Runt club for quite a while, you might try googling Giant Runts in Oklahoma....AAHHH Avery!!! that is his last name... well you know how old age is, any ways, hope all is having a great day, you also have Wayne Haws right there in Choctaw that has all kinds of pigeons and was the sec/tres for the Oklahoma Pigeon Association, I have had over three hundred different kinds of pigeons in my life and at one time kept, sold and traded 500 birds at a time, I love pigeons but got out of them for some time, my son still has about 30 birds of different kinds, Later, Lynn