Okies in the BYC The Original

[Kassaundra]

MM,
I'm sorry for the terrible circumstances you are facing right now, when you come through on the other side you will know no matter the outcome you handled the situation w/ grace and responsibilty, and took all ness. action to protect others, your surviving chickens, and the reputation of small "mom and pop"/ hobby farming. To newbie and veteran alike you have reminded all of the need for vigilance by your open and honestly sharing your situation, I for one admire the way you have dealt w/ your "lemons".

I know I am new, but I have to wonder what of the person who sold the sick birds, are their flocks being comed through? Are they having any kind of sensure for passing on the sick birds?

 

[nnbreeder]

As Matt and I also discussed, chances are the seller did not even know the birds were sick. Stress will bring illnesses to light and everything will stress out a chicken.

With public access to the birds before the auction too it could have been brought in by anyone there at the auction that night. Or even by a Sparrow sitting up in the rafters. Sometimes the cause is very hard to nail down.


I really have to applaud Matt for taking the high road on this and stopping whatever is infecting his flock and not just taking the birds to a sale far away from home.

 

[Elwood Lightfoot]

Hang in there Matt I'm sure it will work out,
I was just catching up on posts and called the house to check messages and had one from the person I traded some of my hens to for rabbits a couple months ago she said the hens I gave her have something I couldn't understand the whole message and will have to call her back when I get home to find out what it was and how she found out but she also said I have to kill and burn all the birds in that flock that part was clear on the recording.
I have 15 birds in that area and the ones I got from Jeanie are in a new area maybe 75 feet from them and no contact with each other,

Is that far enough apart from them to keep any illness' from spreading?
I'm not sure which birds brought the problem to the pen but it can only be a couple of different groups I bought.
I'll post what it was she was telling me when I get my comp at home back online I got a vicious virus last night on it and ended up wiping the harddrive clean to be rid of it now just need to download the drivers needed to get online so I can download drivers so I can...
Anyway it may take me a while to get back to the thread but sounds like I have an illness issue I will need to tend to,
I hope everyone has a great weekend if I don't see you'uns till then

 

[nnbreeder]

The incubation period for Coryza is 1-3 days so if it has been months it did not come off of your yard.

Chronically ill or healthy carrier birds are the reservoir of infection. Chickens of all ages are susceptible, but susceptibility increases with age. The incubation period is 1-3 days, and the disease duration is usually 2-3 wk. Under field conditions, the duration may be longer in the presence of concurrent diseases, eg, mycoplasmosis.
Infected flocks are a constant threat to uninfected flocks. Transmission is by direct contact, airborne droplets, and contamination of drinking water. “All-in/all-out” management has essentially eradicated infectious coryza from many commercial poultry establishments in the USA. Commercial farms that have multiple-age flocks tend to perpetuate the disease. Egg transmission does not occur. Molecular techniques such as restriction endonuclease analysis and ribotyping have been used to trace outbreaks of infectious coryza.

Unless Coryza has been confirmed by a lab it can be any number of resp. infections as the symptoms are all basically the same but with subtle differences.

The above text is from the Merck Vet. Manual online and is from this page here.


http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/206600.htm

Since it is not an egg transmitted disease it is possible to hatch replacement birds out of an infected flock but cross-contamination is likely unless extreme cautions are taken.

I want to also remind everyone that it is migration season for all critters so there will be illnesses shed by migrating birds flying overhead. Waterfowl are probably the most likely carriers of disease as it seems they are either alive or dead and rarely get sick between the two times.

 

[Elwood Lightfoot]

Okay, I was doing some searches for it the message said that was the finding of a necropsey report on her birds she got from me, I guess that explains the one bird that has the swelling near her eyes but she is the only one that has any symptoms, I just need to find out how to clean it from the area so it can be used in the future and will the illness be transmitted through the eggs? I'm getting ready to start another hatch and have mostly eggs from this pen

 

[nnbreeder]

Here is a link to a page from the sate ag. dept with a lot of useful info. On down the page there is a list of reportable diseases that if a flock has one of these diseases then it has to be reported to the state.


http://www.oda.state.ok.us/ais/forms.htm

If a flock has to be culled as with Avian Influenza they will cull all birds on the premisis. Some of these diseases are nasty and spread rapidly and it is better to lose a few birds then to start an outbreak.

And burning a carcass is way different then putting them in a commercial incenerator. The latter has filters that take particulates out of the smoke. It would be one in a million but feather dander could rise on the updraft on a regular fire and still be able to infect a flock once it landed.

 

[nnbreeder]

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Not egg transmittable. and her flock could have been the active carriers that gave it to your birds. Unless extensive testing is done the source will not be found. And that includes the original birds she had.

 

[Elwood Lightfoot]

THanks NN, I had lost some birds a a few months ago to what seemed like a resp infection but I haven't lost any since early summer except two that died from the heat, I posted a couple weeks ago about the runny eyes of the one hen and have had her in a seperate cage for a while she seems fine but still has the small knots in front of her eyes I've treated her with eye ointment and antibiotics she eats and drinks well but the bumps don't seem to get any smaller

 

[MMPoultryFarms]

Just got the test results for Stillwater research lab All clear of AI, All Clear of Newcastle, All clear of eradication, all clear of any serious critical threats appears my chicks caught a cold. More lab results will follow from texas next week as to what virus strain it might be and what the best method is to Cure I have been released from lockdown and can Rehome any bird that didnt show symptoms. I cannot consume or sell any eggs for a 14 day period I should process and slaughter any cornish rocks With the cold as it is safe to eat as long as they havent been medicated.
Also recieved my Oklahoma hatchery licence and I have been givin the green light. I guess I can finally lay down eat a bite and rest some its really been a long few stressed out days But I must say Least I know now that there are truly some good people behind me.

 

[doubleostud]

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Hitting things with a big hammer to get them to work, now that is my area of knowledge.