Old English Game Bantam Question

[Sneebsey]

BBR is short for Black Breasted Red, as The Moonshiner states above.

We know already that both her parents are carriers of the gene, and therefore may pass it to their offspring. Your other birds, including their other BBR offspring, may or may not carry it.

 

[ourcozycoop]

BBR is short for Black Breasted Red, as The Moonshiner states above.

We know already that both her parents are carriers of the gene, and therefore may pass it to their offspring. Your other birds, including their other BBR offspring, may or may not carry it.

Alright! Gotcha

So then my next best bet at producing these birds without this is testing out our new roo and the other hens to see if they too carry it and avoid breeding the roo and hen that just bred again.

Just to ensure I’m understanding correctly. If I were to breed the original roo with another hen there is a sure chance that I am continuing this genetic mutation. We may not see it right away but I would be passing along this gene to new chicks. I assume my best bet at producing strong beautiful birds is to simply not breed him at all. Even if I find I do have hens that do not carry this gene. And visa versa for the hen and the new roo.

This will be my last question lol I hope that makes sense lol

Thank you and sorry for all the questions. Just want to ensure I get the general idea of what’s happening here.

 

[Sneebsey]

If I were to breed the original roo with another hen there is a chance we do not see this again so long as the hen is not carri g the gene as well. And visa versa with the hen and the other roo. Does breeding a roo that we know has this mean that I am introducing the gene into chicks and can possibly expect this again down the line in the future if I do breed him with a hen that does not have it? Should I simply not breed him/her at all?

It's up to you whether or not to breed the birds in question. As they carry it, around half their offspring with clean BBR will also carry it, thus it can appear again in later generations. Many would avoid breeding it in, but it is your decision whether or not to. Personally, I am using the Lav-carrying Araucana I have as they have the best egg colour and production traits of the lines I have. Although I am sure to see some Lavender offspring hatch in the years to come, eventually I will be able to eliminate the gene from my line.

If you choose to use the birds with the hidden gene, they must be identified somehow, and all offspring from them will be suspect and you may choose to breed them to a cream/dilute bird to test them for the gene before using them in your BBR group.

 

[Birds of a Feather]

Those don’t look like purebred OEGB. The mother could pass as a nice quality purebred Light Brown Dutch Bantam and the rooster looks like a mix. The lightest one has coloring similar to a Cream Light Brown Dutch but has the wrong color of beak and legs. The pullet with gray legs and the cockerel might end up looking like purebred Dutch if they get white earlobes.

 

[ourcozycoop]

Oh wow!! I just googled Brown Dutch Bantam and they look like most in the pictures, they look just like the Dutch Bantam. I feel silly lol I thought after much googling this is what they were (Oegb) they were left on the farm prior to us moving in! I’m so glad I’ve posted them (and glad the kids and I never entered them into the fair LOL)
The two original girls that is. They def. look like the Dutch Bantam. The offspring not as much, but again we do have another rooster. The mother in the pictures posted is the one in my profile picture.

 

[Birds of a Feather]

Dutch Bantams can also be shown, in the Single Comb Clean Legged Other Than Game Bantam class. They are recognized as a breed by both of the major poultry associations (APA and ABA). Unlike Game Bantams, the combs of the roosters do not have to be dubbed for show.

 

[ourcozycoop]

Dutch Bantams can also be shown, in the Single Comb Clean Legged Other Than Game Bantam class. They are recognized as a breed by both of the major poultry associations (APA and ABA). Unlike Game Bantams, the combs of the roosters do not have to be dubbed for show.

I just meant more so because I would have listed them wrong LOL

 

[ourcozycoop]

Those don’t look like purebred OEGB. The mother could pass as a nice quality purebred Light Brown Dutch Bantam and the rooster looks like a mix. The lightest one has coloring similar to a Cream Light Brown Dutch but has the wrong color of beak and legs. The pullet with gray legs and the cockerel might end up looking like purebred Dutch if they get white earlobes.

Here is a better picture of one of the ladies. Our Estelle

 

[Butterscotchbitesfinger]

Maybe you should get @OldEnglishGameBantam33
In for some help she is a specialist in OEGB enjoy

 

[OldEnglishGameBantam33]

Maybe you should get @OldEnglishGameBantam33
In for some help she is a specialist in OEGB enjoy

I am good with variety and show traits but not so much with genetics!
Sorry I am confuzzled!