OMG please help me. HELP HELP HELP HELP

[Rockashelle]

No. Take a warm wet paper towl and wrap (like a cradle) around the egg so it stays moist and doesn't dry out. Let her break the inner membrane. Is she chirpping at all?

 

[tashtash]

Not chirping but she is moving

 

[Rockashelle]

Ok tashtash, I'd leave her be. Read through the assisted hatch article and keep your humidity where you have it. The more that incubator is opened... The less likely it will get out on its own. I know its tough. Hang in there. If she were chirping it would sure be a good sign. I'm afraid that poking a hole in the other side would risk bleeding if she isn't ready yet.

 

[Rockashelle]

If there has been no progress by morning, I'd be tempted to remove just the outer membrane from the already exisiting hole to see what the inner membrane looks like with a flashlight. If there are no veins, then think about assisting. Sally will be on first thing in the morning.

 

[tashtash]

Thanks im all frizzled atm sorry. ok I've calmed down. the hole i put in had a membrane stuck to shell as I've chipped away shell membrane came with it. but now i can see that she is wraped up in a cover (membrane) so im guessing the membrane that she is wraped in she can't break through.i can't see her beak i can only work out that its her side or back end cause i can see her breathing. i have now wraped her like a bed sheet in wet paper towel if by tomorrow she has not come out i will help her. if you say its ok.

 

[CluckAcres]

Good Luck!!

 

[Rockashelle]

Good job! It's not super easy to see the beak. From that view of the egg, you would see her shoulders and base of neck as her little head will be tucked under her wing with the beak pointing back. I'll check back in the morning. You can look up the image of how the chicks are folded up in there just before hatch.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Sally sunshine if your on here please help or anyone please help. All my chicks hatched on the 23rd and so no more since then so I candeled them to check them and I took out ones that were not ok cracked open and was all wet yolk. I put a small hole in one that told me don't just crack chip away I wash I never took it out when I put a tiny hole in I saw a chicken breathing help I have put a hole in the egg do I crack the rest open and get her out or will she be ok I have a hole in the empty air sac I think cause I can see a membrane over chick. Help help help anyone help

awwww the minute I get bored and think the site is dead and go do something else I could be helping someone : (

I am not sure the time over/downunder but I will be around for another hour and then I have to run out for an appointment.
The article has ALMOST everything in it to help quide you.....

I am NOT sure what the situation is.....REMINDER CLEAN HANDS AND CLEAN WATER ONLY....
NOTE: I ONLY on RARE instances have I ever been able to save a chick that IS NOT CHIRPING Without an INTERNAL pip....

Have you dampened that inner membrane? When you do, do it lightly, dont douse it, it will become pretty transparent and you will see what is going on in there. Check the veining like the article says, check water consistancy. If its mushy and alot of fluid under the membrane you have a wet chick, one that just isnt ready, or malpositioned. I would leave it and keep the humidity up, because if you try to acclimate a chicks lungs too soon it will more than likey pass anyway. Wet chicks are a result MOST TIMEs of Low heat and High humidity. Typically they wont make it. And Its too late to turn this around. We can work on this for next time, like we already discussed. My guess is its a wet chick, alot of times they grow so big and cant turn to pip. : (

If the membrane is stuck like sticky you have a sticky chick. If its STICKY you may be able to give it a chance by trying to find its beak.......... AND ONLY make a tiny pip so that his nostriles one beak are clear.... usually these sticky chicks have already pipped inner membrane and die fast before you would even check to see if they are viable..... If you dont "feel" or see the beak under the stuck membrane chances are he is malpositioned and never got his beak into position to pip. So chances are slim but you can at least try and know your not doing any more harm than good trying to save the little bugger. If you plan to help NOTE a CHICKS TYPICAL POSITIONING IN THE PICS BELOW!! NOTE THE WING, NOTE TYPICAL Pip SITE. IF you cant find its beak you may have to locate its neck by way of wing and pull his head out......but again this is so chancey, understand that your trying to save its life.

TYPICALLY his beak is towards the LOWER DIP IN THE AIR CELL as shown below


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BELOW IS INFORMATION IF you think the chick is MALPOSITIONED........


I have to explain that ONLY on RARE instances have I ever been able to save a chick that isnt chirping without an internal pip....

I had ONE make it that was malpositioned in a saddle shaped air cell, the dip in the air cell dipped way down low in the egg.....and the chicks beak was STILL naturally at this LOWEST point in the air cell...it was a day late and I thought I saw an internal pip well I didnt, so I found its beak at that lower dip and just made a tiny internal pip at its beak..... HOWEVER it was not watery yet, meaning when I dampened the membrane it didnt "show" fluid just alot of chick in there...
this is actually from the 101 article......

PIPPED the WRONG END​

The normal hatching position is where the spine of the embryo runs parallel to the long axis of the egg and the beak is positioned underneath the right wing. The tip of the beak is directed towards the air cell in the blunt pole of the egg. When the beak is under the right wing, the wing holds the shell membrane away from the face of the embryo and thus gives the beak more freedom of movement. In addition, the wing helps stretch the inner shell membrane and helps the piercing of this membrane by the beak. In this way, the embryo gains access to the air cell of the egg and begins to ventilate its lungs.
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Common reasons for increased incidences of Malpositions are:
Eggs are set with small end up. As part of a monitoring program, check eggs in the egg room or in the setters to ensure that eggs have been set correctly.
Advancing breeder hen age and shell quality problems.
Egg turning frequency and angle are not adequate. Proper frequency of turning through a 45 degree angle assists the embryo to position for hatch. The standard turning rate in the setter is 1 per hour.
Inadequate percent humidity loss of eggs in the setter. Acceptable weight loss of eggs from setting to transfer is 11-14%.
Inadequate air cell development, improper temperature and humidity regulation, and insufficient ventilation in the incubator or hatcher.
Imbalanced feeds, elevated levels of mycotoxins, and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.
Exposure to lower than recommended temperatures in the last stage of incubation.

Normal hatching position and the six recognised malpositions:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/artic...-hatchery-practice-examining-the-hatch-debris

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SHIPPED EGGS and SADDLE SHAPED AIR CELLS ~​

(when one or both sides have a large "dip" in the air cell.)​

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Look at this position..... I alot of times with saddle shaped cells the chick doesnt position correct for hatching and alot of times the feet are in a bad place like stuck behind the head and actually smoosh the chick so they cant move, it can also force the yolk sack and everthing more north in the shell....

Look at the pics and note the top of the egg and how far down this air cell goes, alot of times they CAN do the internal pip but cannot hit that outer membrane/shell. This is why I mark the air cells and keep a close watch on them at hatch and if they seem "later" that the rest by about 6-12 hrs I will begin an assist by candle and tapping to make sure I have that internal pip, HOWEVER in this case you cant see the internal pip too well because of the angle, so I always tap to see if I hear them. and if I do hear a chirp then I follow the Assist steps... If not I check again in another 6 hours....and repeat...
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[tashtash]

Thanks im crazy its 4:34 am and i got up to check her nothing had happened since yesterday so i proceeded to help i had to i could not walk away. as i chipped away slowly i still could not find the beak. i finally found it about half way around the egg. there was no sign of her beak making a hole to come out. her yolk was all gone bar a very very small bit. i took off membrane for her where i had chipped away shell. she is moving her head and beak alot but not chirping at all. breathing lots. so i put her back in at this stage. i will let her see if she can do it now. i will check in a few hours when i get up if she is not out i will help more. i did alot of the work for her at this stage I've left her curled up but the top half of egg is off her and her beak is through and out of the membrane. she had like if i can say like weird goo on her like egg whites when they go that weird curdle look. the cover that was on her was like a moth covering it was really squeezing her. i hope i have given her a head start to come out. i watched most of my 10 chickies being hatched and none of them looked like in the position that she is in or even the difficultly of coming out. she is not chirping witch i thought she would of been. anyway i hope i did good as my first hatch so i was really scared but at the same time i just had to do something. at least i can say i tried and i will know more for next time putting it to learning. any more info if i did wrong or what else to do would be great.

 

[Rockashelle]

Sounds like you're doing great and like your chick might be in the same shape my little chick was. This is what I did when she punctured her yolk sack prior to hatch. It was a gooey mess. Here's her story:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...-detatched-shipped-eggs/3100_50#post_10187078