Oregano oil works for cocci and worms, it works!

[Midnightman14]

So why do you believe that oregano oil won't help in making a bird better?

No science no dice.

 

[AidKD]

No science no dice.

Gotcha

 

[Qwerty3159]

Some more light reading for you guys

 

[Lillith37]

There is a place for western medicines and there is also a place for homeopathic/natural preventatives and remedies. Each approach has value in different contexts and the two do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Regardless of whether there is science, anecdotal evidence, generational knowledge etc. about a specific thing, and regardless of what we choose to believe or adopt in our own practices — I don’t think the mockery and dismissal of First Nations traditions and spirituality in this thread is acceptable.

 

[Stravager]

No science no dice.

A lot of "scientific research" is not done in a proper test environment because it's often too expensive for them to get funding for, so even science itself is dicey when it comes to what is and isn't an effective treatment. On top of that, where there is little government intervention or regulations companies can pay to get the results they do want or the public leans heavily on confirmation bias from one study done in a completely different area. While there might be a lot of confirmation bias around oregano or other herbal remedies, much of the medications we used initially came from plants so it seems a little unfair to completely disregard herbal medicine. Not saying that it will always be effective, but science does have to start somewhere.

 

[KsKingBee]

A lot of "scientific research" is not done in a proper test environment because it's often too expensive for them to get funding for, so even science itself is dicey when it comes to what is and isn't an effective treatment. On top of that, where there is little government intervention or regulations companies can pay to get the results they do want or the public leans heavily on confirmation bias from one study done in a completely different area. While there might be a lot of confirmation bias around oregano or other herbal remedies, much of the medications we used initially came from plants so it seems a little unfair to completely disregard herbal medicine. Not saying that it will always be effective, but science does have to start somewhere.

Quite true, and a case in point is the use of oxalic acid for the treatment of mites on honeybees. It took many years of study to get it approved, in many states it was completely illegal for years. Bayer and the other chemical manufacturers couldn't make money on what could be bought at the hardware store costing just pennies to treat a hive where their chemicals would cost many dollars per hive. Improper dosing and misuse was to blame for the early mite treatments to fail much like the improper use of antibiotics, especially Ivermectin, which has made many of them almost useless for our birds.

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

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[KsKingBee]

This thread has been cleaned up and unlocked. For those who need a refresher the BYC rules can be found here .

It is okay to have a difference of opinions. It's not okay to argue or belittle other members for their views. Please keep all posts respectful, and family friendly. If you don't like the topic please move on to something else. Thank you.

oldhenlikesdogs

Thank you!

 

[Midnightman14]

There is a place for western medicines and there is also a place for homeopathic/natural preventatives and remedies. Each approach has value in different contexts and the two do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Regardless of whether there is science, anecdotal evidence, generational knowledge etc. about a specific thing, and regardless of what we choose to believe or adopt in our own practices — I don’t think the mockery and dismissal of First Nations traditions and spirituality in this thread is acceptable

There is no place for homeopathic "medicine" in the world that's why it's not used in western medicine aka medcine that works. This has nothing to do with First Nation individuals and everything to do with bad advice and being lazy with a bird's medical care. Science is king

 

[Midnightman14]

A lot of "scientific research" is not done in a proper test environment because it's often too expensive for them to get funding for, so even science itself is dicey when it comes to what is and isn't an effective treatment. On top of that, where there is little government intervention or regulations companies can pay to get the results they do want or the public leans heavily on confirmation bias from one study done in a completely different area. While there might be a lot of confirmation bias around oregano or other herbal remedies, much of the medications we used initially came from plants so it seems a little unfair to completely disregard herbal medicine. Not saying that it will always be effective, but science does have to start somewhere.

totally incorrect, I am a scientist and these are the attitudes that we fight against every day in my field.