Oriental Gamefowl Thread!

[fowlman01]

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This generally works. You just have to watch these guys and even then they will sometimes get into fights. My black Asil females will also get nasty early.

Walt

 

[GotGame]

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This generally works. You just have to watch these guys and even then they will sometimes get into fights. My black Asil females will also get nasty early.

Walt

I appreciate all the info guys. This will be my first year with asils, so I will definitely keep an eye out.

 

[saladin]

Shamos

This young fellow stands more upright than in this photo (though not 90^ from the ground), but he's not use to a tie-cord.

 

[Lollipop]

Like Walt said, even the female Asils will sometimes fight like cocks, even if they are broodmates. They always fight when you aren`t there to stop it.

A classic story about this is from my days in South FL. The president of the SFPFA (South FL Poultry Fanciers Assn.) took a fancy to my Asils. I gave her a stag and 2 pullets. She managed to raise them OK, but had a little problem when she bred them. The chicks were about 3 weeks old. She went to town for some arands and returned in just under 2 hours. The chicks had started a battle royal in her absence. Two had broken necks, one broken wing, one broken leg, and 3 strawbwerry heads. One strawberry head she culled. Out of six chicks, she managed to raise 2. Kinda makes you think they could be hard to raise.

Another incident with the same lady. She, being the president of the SFPFA, decided to take a couple Asils to the show at the South FL Fair, which is promoted and staffed by club members. Just to show the ignorance of some people concerning Asils, she was told by the poultry judge that her Asils were too small. These were Reza type Rampuri Asils. The stag was about 5 lbs. Just about right in my book. Go figure........Pop

 

[Lollipop]

Double post, computer glitch. Sorry.....Pop

 

[GotGame]

I like that dom stag doc. That sounds about right pop, i am being informed about what a shamo should and shouldn't be and do by a fellow that got his first shamo, from an auction, a week ago, lol. I am far from an expert, but come on.

 

[fowlman01]

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They rarely fight in front of me for some reason. It is always when I'm not there to stop them. Any of the Orientals can do this, it is not just Asils, although my blacks are ferocious.

Asil cocks should be 5.5lbs and cockerels 4.5lbs. Judges many times see only the physical size and ASSUME they are lighter. In addition Asils come in all sizes, so judges that don't know the real weights go for the larger birds. Most judges out here are pretty good because the oriental classes are very large here in Cali. Best large fowl usually comes from the AOSB class here.

Walt

 

[saladin]

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They rarely fight in front of me for some reason. It is always when I'm not there to stop them. Any of the Orientals can do this, it is not just Asils, although my blacks are ferocious.

Asil cocks should be 5.5lbs and cockerels 4.5lbs. Judges many times see only the physical size and ASSUME they are lighter. In addition Asils come in all sizes, so judges that don't know the real weights go for the larger birds. Most judges out here are pretty good because the oriental classes are very large here in Cali. Best large fowl usually comes from the AOSB class here.

Walt

Walt is right on the money as usual. Back east the biggest Asil wins nearly every time.

At a show a few weeks back I had a judge right on the darn card "To small."

Funny thing is HE WAS STANDARD WEIGHT AND I HAD THE SCALES THERE TO PROVE IT!

We don't have enough judges that know Orientals back east. The one's we do are good: Danny Padgett, Mike Wasylkowski to name two.
In all fairness to our back east judges: what you don't see much of is difficult to judge.

 

[centrarchid]

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Lollipop,

What sets off such young Aseel chicks going into battle royal mode? My American game cockerels go at on day hen stops clucking (about 5 weeks post-hatch) and again at about 12 weeks but losses which are pretty rare occur only during the 12 week battle royal. As you indicate, having a mature male stops the 12-week old birds from getting down so hard but seems to have no affect on the 5-week old chicks.

 

[old*cowboy]

Before I moved I had several young asil on the ground, about 2 months old. I needed to cut way down for the move. Had a wire cage about 4 foot sq. 10 inches tall divided into 4 sections. Put 3 young asil in each compartment. When they got where they were going 2 dead, several bloody. Sex was not a concern as the pullets got just as bad as the stags. This last weekend I was gifted an awesome blue hen. Reason I was gifted this hen, she was too hard on the cocks.