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Then you would have to have 2 different SOP's for Rhode Islands, and 2 different SOP's for New Hampshire, 2 different SOP's for Cochins and on and on and on. Face it there is an APA who does not want to have to bow to the European SOP's. We have our own SOP's. IF you like to show in the APA I suggest you get birds that meet the APA. Most here on BYC do not show. Most here like their birds the way they make em. Not to any SOP, and not to the APA. I say most not all.
And IF they haven't added Lavs or Splashes to the Orp APA SOP what makes you think that the 100 or so folks who prefer UK Orps will get bumped to the front of the list to be added to the APA? Just will not happen the way I see it.
Let me also mention that there are so many other breeds not accepted to the APA cause they do not have a breed club supporting them. To have the UKers added you need folks who are willing to show in the APA and have events for accepting them like what the Marans folks have done. I do not see but a handful in the USA willing to show their UK Orps. I certainly did not see any at the Crossroads which would be accepted by the UK SOP. And that is the biggest show of last year.
huh, I do show mine, won with one once, will show more of them in March. nope, not a big time breeder or show person but I enjoy them and will take them to shows. not an expert on how things work with APA. that is why I asked WHY? why would the APA be "bowing" to the Euro sop? its not allowed to accept a bird into the APA from any other country and leave them the way they originated? it HAS to be changed to fit the american version? I dont understand that. is it law? why do the APA not want "their" birds they way they made them? APA is so exclusive only they can make a bird the right way ? Is that what APA states or just an opinion? Most here on BYC do not show, very true, but we are in the breeds genetics and showing forum here, for people who do show and breed. should we not discuss showing our birds here? I thought that was what this forum was for. I think being able to discuss how to get them accepted and in the shows is a start. I think this discussion never gets to go anywhere because there are some who want to fight and argue about it. my thought, if a person does not plan to have these birds, breed them or show them, they dont have a dog in the fight and should refrain from commenting, its ok to like or not like them, but the arguing should be left off.
its my understanding that splash and lav can be accepted, it just takes work and participation from breeders to breed them and exhibit them for so many years. the APA is not unwilling to accept them if they are proven by the breeders right?
The naysayers are expressing their opinions. Unless they are on the APA Standards Committee, they have no actual say in what will occur. There are plenty of exhibitors that think silkies shouldn't be an accepted breed, yet they have been recognised from the very beginning, and are one of the oldest breeds in the world.
The process requires five documented breeders that have been breeding them for at least five years. There are paperwork to be filled out and fees to be paid, then a given number of birds in all age/gender categories must be shown at a qualifying meet. The judges will be looking to see that all or at least most of the birds shown conform to the presented standard. They can reject, postpone or accept the breed and varieties. If they reject, the process will have to be re-started. If postponed, there will be at least one additional qualifying meets where they will be considered.
I strongly agree that fighting about it is silly--it seems like the purpose of this thread should be breeding to the UK standard, discussing exactly what it is and is not, noting the differences in the standards between UK and US, discussing the shows where thy have been/will be exhibited, presenting paperwork to the APA, etc.
Discussing whether it is a good idea or not is pointless here; if that is your viewpoint, then perhaps this is not the thread for you.
