Paint Silkies ~ European Lines

[joe17]

Here are my two paint pullets! I love em.

 

[Narragansett]

Just because a silkie looks to be furry rather than feathered, doesn't mean it is

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I have no idea what this means in regard to this discussion.​

 

[brenTx]

I have been doing GREAT with paints hatching and need to sell a few. If you are interested there is one I just listed on bidbird http://bidbird.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1006903083 . If you are looking for cockerels...more mature birds, I have them too. Paints are such hardy breeders, hatch well and started chicks are strong.


AND one more
http://bidbird.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1006908361

 

[Faerytalefarm]

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Beautiful pullets!

 

[hoppy]

I just posted up an auction for paint eggs. I seem to be getting alot of flak because my paint roo has dun on his hackles. I am breeding him with my best birds which happen to be a 2x best in show splash, 1 Best of breed blue and a blue partridge with really nice type.
here's the link if anyone wants to look.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7932828#p7932828

I guess I'm a bit upset by these attacks, and referred them back to this thread for some education but they seem to know all there is about paint (glad someone knows it all, since I thought they were so new and we are still figuring this gene out)

 

[Brody's Broodello]

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The "flak" was not the dun in the hackles. It is the fact that your Paint is not white & black, it's a blue/splash and paint. The breeders that are working on these are breeding to Black & White, to clean up the body color to have a clean distinct black paint color on a solid white bird. By breeding to splash, you really can't tell the bird is a paint or splash. That is the point the posters were trying to make.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Blue paints are already documented, as are splash. The blue gene dilutes the eumelanin: the black pigment. It does not affect the ground colour, which in the case of a paint is white. The off-coloured hackles and champagne body are likely to be related to the bird being gold gened (versus silver), and possible presence of mahogany and/or Db.

 

[hoppy]

Brody's Broodello :

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The "flak" was not the dun in the hackles. It is the fact that your Paint is not white & black, it's a blue/splash and paint. The breeders that are working on these are breeding to Black & White, to clean up the body color to have a clean distinct black paint color on a solid white bird. By breeding to splash, you really can't tell the bird is a paint or splash. That is the point the posters were trying to make.

I posted this at time there were only post 4&5 they were questioning that the roo was even paint since he has leakage, now there is more uproar regarding paint in general.​

 

[robin416]

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The "flak" was not the dun in the hackles. It is the fact that your Paint is not white & black, it's a blue/splash and paint. The breeders that are working on these are breeding to Black & White, to clean up the body color to have a clean distinct black paint color on a solid white bird. By breeding to splash, you really can't tell the bird is a paint or splash. That is the point the posters were trying to make.

I posted this at time there were only post 4&5 they were questioning that the roo was even paint since he has leakage, now there is more uproar regarding paint in general.

LOL don't you just love it? At this point in time there are more questions than answers regarding paint and now there's a brohaha going on about what constitutes paint and what can or can not be bred to it.

In a nutshell, I don't think it matters what color we use. I've bred paint to black and paint to white. Out of both breedings I got other colors along with the paint. So, until there is more understanding on how it works they can wear themselves out arguing over it.

 

[Brody's Broodello]

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I posted this at time there were only post 4&5 they were questioning that the roo was even paint since he has leakage, now there is more uproar regarding paint in general.

LOL don't you just love it? At this point in time there are more questions than answers regarding paint and now there's a brohaha going on about what constitutes paint and what can or can not be bred to it.

In a nutshell, I don't think it matters what color we use. I've bred paint to black and paint to white. Out of both breedings I got other colors along with the paint. So, until there is more understanding on how it works they can wear themselves out arguing over it.

The gist of the uproar from what I can see was that the pics of the bird do not look like what the world is calling paint. Yes you can have two colors on the same bird, no one on that thread said differently. The questions being raised where that the bird appeared to be more splash than paint. Also the other question at hand is what is being done with those solid chicks from paint breeding. Are they being used in a paint program, or are they being used in a standard color breeding. If they are like other animals in the passing of color genetics. In the following generations will we see off coloring if they are used in a standard color program. ie black body spots in lets say buff, or pigment holes in others. That was a conversation that took place by a few silkie breeders at a recent National Show. I guess the question is, by breeding paint and taking those "solid" offspring, mixing them into more solid colors, will there be a backlash in the future taking the standard colors in a direction that would need a few generations to get back to where they are now?