Peachicks lethargic & dying...vet has never seen anything like it...PLS HELP!

[casportpony]

I just did a quick search on LS50, and one of the things people use it for is necrotic enteritis, so maybe while on it they were fine, but once off clostridium perfringens moved in, and LA 200 won't treat that. Call your vet and talk about clostridium perfringens, E. coli, etc, and ask them to do a gram stain. Funny your vet did don suggest doing that to rule out bacterial and/or fungal infections.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Can you please post pictures of the peachicks and the poop? This can help us the most to help you. Wonder what the round thing is? Do you have a picture of the round thing?


You have to be very careful when reading on the medicated feed articles. Depends on is the person an organic farmer or just a regular farmer. Organic farmers like to consider medicated feeds "toxic", "harmful", unnatural. Best to leave them alone and do their own thing. Where the article is written, US or a foreign country. I believe there's an article that was written in Australia that says medicated feeds are bad for waterfowl, but the medicine they were talking about was not Amprolium. Amprolium is a safe medicine, it's a probiotic instead of an antibiotic like most people like to try and believe. Those are some of the issues that get mentioned when you bring up medicated feeds.

I've seen three types of medicated feeds.... turkey started w/bacitracin, chick starter with amprolium, and another that had both. Both drugs are safe for *all* poultry. Ingore anyone that says waterfowl can't have medicated feed, that an old wives tale from back in the day when they used drugs that were toxic to waterfowl, but both bacitracin and amprolium are safe!

, trade names Amprovine, Amprolium, Amprol, Anticoccid) is a coccidiostat used in poultry.
The drug is a thiamine analogue and blocks the thiamine transporter of Eimeria species. By blocking thiamine uptake it prevents carbohydrate synthesis.
Despite only moderate efficacy it is well favoured due to few resistance issues and is commonly used in conjunction withsulfonamides prophylactically in chickens and cattle as a coccidiostat.

-Kathy

 

[Birdrain92]

I've seen three types of medicated feeds.... turkey started w/bacitracin, chick starter with amprolium, and another that had both. Both drugs are safe for *all* poultry. Ingore anyone that says waterfowl can't have medicated feed, that an old wives tale from back in the day when they used drugs that were toxic to waterfowl, but both bacitracin and amprolium are safe!


-Kathy

I know amprolium is safe with waterfowl. I just brought up since I've heard of people talking about it. I let them know that Amprolium won't harm them. It was during a poultry feed discussion at a local feed store and someone brought it up. The discussion was entertaining though, lots of fun.

 

[casportpony]

@joules23, how are they doing? Did you get a chance to talk to your vet about chcking for bacteria? Another thought... The poo pictures you posted are of what I call 'regular poop', which are clearly abnormal, but what do their cecal poops look like? Cecal poop are normally seen in 2-3 times a day, usually morning and late afternoon.

-Kathy

 

[joules23]

Still on LS-50, never went off. Added back on Penicillin for surviving three peachicks; they have improved overnight. All keets in the same group have died.
Vet checked fecal sample for everything and we check fecals daily with no significant signs of bacteria, fungi or parasites. Also no blood in the poo, both visually and microscopic.
All the keets in the other brooder are still doing great. Both sets of keets and all the peachicks were shipped together from same hatchery, breeder says that combining is not a problem.

We have contacted an Avian Specialist who has agreed to view the data and videos for us. Hopefully they can shed some light on this.



Thanks for everyone's input so far! No data is bad data

 

[casportpony]

Still on LS-50, never went off. Added back on Penicillin for surviving three peachicks; they have improved overnight. All keets in the same group have died.
Vet checked fecal sample for everything and we check fecals daily with no significant signs of bacteria, fungi or parasites. Also no blood in the poo, both visually and microscopic.
All the keets in the other brooder are still doing great. Both sets of keets and all the peachicks were shipped together from same hatchery, breeder says that combining is not a problem.

We have contacted an Avian Specialist who has agreed to view the data and videos for us. Hopefully they can shed some light on this.



Thanks for everyone's input so far! No data is bad data e

Necropsies in TN are free, so maybe you can find a way to have that done.

-Kathy

 

[tothemoon]

I have a peachick now that is lethargic, bloated and having a hard time with balance. i have never had pea's before so i am not familiar with their characteristics. I put them on un medicated 24% chick starter. This chick is a few days old and is with another chick just a day or so younger. The younger one is fine so far. i had no idea they could fly at such a young age and the older one kept flying over the brooder wall into the area with the Guineas so I moved them both to an enclosed brooder. There looks to be a bruise in the swollen area of the ill chick so I'm wondering if it just hurt itself trying to fly so young.

 

[casportpony]

Can you post a picture of it's belly?

 

[tothemoon]

It passed away....

 

[casportpony]

It passed away....

Sorry for your loss.