Peafowl Worming

[casportpony]

Gerald, we have to have a talk. The first year I had my peas I was told to worm my birds exactly the way you described here. Two weeks later I had to do a necropsy and here is what we found.



Here is the correct amount of fenbendazole to give, and it is given by weight of the bird, not diluted in water and tossed out.

Thanks for posting this!


-Kathy

 

[barkerg]

Google the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for Safeguard and you will probably see that is says "not soluble in water". I just confirmed this by placing some in water and it settled out fairly quickly.

-Kathy

It is a pita thats why I frequently shake it up as it will settle and adhere to the plastic.

Gerald Barker

 

[casportpony]

Google the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for Safeguard and you will probably see that is says "not soluble in water". I just confirmed this by placing some in water and it settled out fairly quickly.

-Kathy

It is a pita thats why I frequently shake it up as it will settle and adhere to the plastic.

Gerald Barker

Questions for you... How much do you put in a gallon and how much of that gallon do you think a large male drinks?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Everyone should also google the MSDS for 1% ivermectin, cause it's not water soluble at all, it's oily, so it will float to the top within *minutes*. Have also done this experiment.

Additionally, it's not an effective wormer unless large amount are given.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Gerald, we have to have a talk. The first year I had my peas I was told to worm my birds exactly the way you described here. Two weeks later I had to do a necropsy and here is what we found. Here is the correct amount of fenbendazole to give, and it is given by weight of the bird, not diluted in water and tossed out.

Kingbee, Ouch! Ouch! That did not look good at all. You are correct and that is the absolute sure way to treat them. I however use the method I use because it has worked for me so far... (Fingers crossed) and I probably should use that method but, the bulk of my peas are greens that are either high % spauldings or pure as "American" greens can be, in fact Rocking BAB is sending me a pair of their imported bloodline Muticus' tomorrow I only have a few IB varieties that I keep and most of them are free range. Having said all that, they are housed in large pens that are 800sq ft each and my birds are extremely wild especially right now. It would be like an MMA match if I tried to catch them and I am afraid of injuries, not only to the birds but to myself as well, they have long sharp spurs that have put a hurtin' on me in the past due to aggression. In fact, I lost 1ea of my best roosters 1 Jan of this year due to it flying up and breaking his neck and that really hurt me. Im not trying to be stubborn or old school its just the way that works for me so far... I hope I didn't just jinx myself. Thank you for showing me that and I will have to ponder it more in the future. Very good info for all to read, thanks again Kingbee

. Gerald Barker

There are water soluble wormers that could be used and are probably far more effective. I will get some info together on those. -Kathy

 

[barkerg]

There are water soluble wormers that could be used and are probably far more effective. I will get some info together on those.

-Kathy

Please do Kathy Im very interested. Thank you.

Gerald Barker

 

[casportpony]

Panacur make AquaSol, which is a 20% (200 mg/ml) water soluble fenbendazole, but the only place I have found it is in Europe.

VetFarm makes something called Wormout Gel, but it's pretty expensive. Think it contains something similar to Fenbendazole, but it also has praziquantel, so it will also treat tapeworms.

One can get a water soluble ivermectin, just not sure where... Think I read that it's made for horses.

Wazine can be used, but just for roundworms.

The MSDS for Valbazen say it's water soluble, but I don't have any, so can't confirm that.

-Kathy

 

[barkerg]

I am very new to the world of peafowl. We are getting 2-3 of them soon and I was wondering some things about worming.
1) Is it absolutely needed to de-worm peafowl? If so, how often?
2) What kind of de-wormer should I buy and where do I buy it? (specifics please)
3) What dosages should be used?

Thank you for any info,
Bailey1204

Bailey,
Something else I forgot to mention, when it comes to aquiring animals from another. I have a general rule that I stick to with every animal to include dogs, peas, chickens etc... Never assume that they have been dewormed even if the person you are getting them from says they have been dewormed. The best confidence is to do it yourself and it doesnt hurt to do it again to be safe. Too many dishonest breeders and people in general that will use that as a selling point. When in doubt, whip it out.

Gerald Barker

 

[casportpony]

Wormout Gel
http://vetafarm.com.au/product/wormout-gel/
20g/L Praziquantel, 20g/L Oxfendazole

If I did the math correctly, it's 47 ml per gallon for two days.

In the US you can buy it here:
http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/medications/worms-wormers/36-vetafarms-wormout-gel-100ml-cc

-Kathy

 

[barkerg]

​I fully expect to get yelled at here, but in Gerald's defense, I have a similar philosophy when it comes to worming my Peas. "If it ain't broke.......don't fix it", in my defense please remember I have a hen that is coming 22, and a lot of my main breeders are 10+ to 15+ years now, and I've had these birds since they were young/chicks so I'm not just letting birds die and replacing them. If the birds look healthy, act healthy, and are eating, drinking and pooping normally I put the wormer in the water. I do use double the dose Gerald mentioned for Safeguard in water. I see no reason to stress a healthy bird. Now... if I see any sign that a bird is acting "off", the first thing I do is catch it and start the oral worming for 5 days. Also, anytime I have to catch one for any reason, nail trimming, tail brushing, changing pens, first aid, etc.... they also get an oral shot of safeguard. Fecal samples here have come up positive for small amounts of capillaria, coccidia, and round worm, and we are very diligent about oral dosing all young birds under a year old, but the adults seem to be able to handle it with this routine. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone, but again, I think a lot of Pea keeping involves finding what works for YOU, and watching your birds diligently. With my cancer treatment last summer, I wasn't able to keep as close an eye on them as I like and as a result I lost 2 hens.

So you mix 7ml to 1gal of safeguard? Have you had any issues? If not, I'm changing my quantities. Let me know and Thanks Mom,

.

Gerald Barker