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pentamom, perhaps you can use a sawzaw and cut that one side off and make that into a brooder just turn it sideways??? screen the top! You seem like me, if there is a will there is a way!
 
Every time I read this board, Hank Williams, Jr. "A Country Boy Will Survive" keeps coming to mind. I am willing to bet that Hank Jr. would be mighty proud of the women on this board!

Sally, you have my thoughts and prayers with your little one. Hang in there.
 
Baym said:
Every time I read this board, Hank Williams, Jr. "A Country Boy Will Survive" keeps coming to mind. I am willing to bet that Hank Jr. would be mighty proud of the women on this board!

Sally, you have my thoughts and prayers with your little one. Hang in there.
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pentamom, perhaps you can use a sawzaw and cut that one side off and make that into a brooder just turn it sideways??? screen the top! You seem like me, if there is a will there is a way!
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I think that's a good idea considering the nesting box is big and untouched by the tree. I have some extra materials leftover that I may try to come up with something..

p.s-I hope your son gets better!
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Holy CRAPOLLIES!! HATCH DAY Go CoolerBATOR GO!! WOW!! and all this with no electric for a week and then in the hospital and not being home to Moniter, weigh, candler OR TURN for a week, AND Day 18&19 HATCH!!!

I counted EIGHT that I put into the brooder bator and there is at least 6 more hatching!!!! Plus the 2 already in the brooder!!! Plus my poor 8 eggs that I had to add from Chad!!! BCMXComets that are probably getting smooshy with this hatching going on and I had to keep them in there because of instant lockdown : ( see that little blacky off to the left in the front??? Thats the ONLY little polish guy that hatched for harmony, the rest were scrambled : ( she is upset, but holy crap look at the rest!! BRAHMA CITY!!

 
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Hi,
I've been musing on the Leonberger dog vs chicken problem our fellowlister is dealing with and something occurred to me. Most all these giant rare breeds that are family guardians are gentle, independent-thinking dogs. They tend to mature a bit later out of "puppy-hood thinking" than some of the other breeds. Need a gentle and understanding hand with a consistent touch to teach them obedience training. This is because they were created to be independent thinkers which could assess and act on a situation without direct control from their master's immediate presence.
Ok, so how does this relate to the dog vs chicken situation? Well many of these rare breed communities are very careful of their gene pool. The Leonberger community, as an example, is very Old School European in their very proper thinking as regards handling of the dogs in the breed. To that end, many breeders have very tight puppy contracts. Often a puppy contact will be pages long, legally ironclad, and can include a n" forfeiture clause " . Some of these clauses can state the dog must be forfeited to the breeder if, during the dogs life, the new owner proves an unworthy home. Or acts such that the dog is put in harm's way, and things like that.
Get the sheriff to get the dogs pedigree. The breeder's name should be listed on it. Then contact the Leonberger Club of America and get the breeder's contact info. Do not tell the Club why you need it. Leonbergers are a small world and no reason to embarrass the breeder in front of the general community. Contact the breeder and let him/her know what has gone down. I can almost guarantee you these folk will be toast in the breeder's eye. If there is a forfeiture clause, this may remove the dog from the neighborhood without involving the law in a neighborhood dispute.
If I was the breeder of a dog which had been mishandled by a puppy owner like this (i.e ignoring the "breed temperament to be a family guardian" and shutting the dog alone in a garage during a storm when it just wanted to guard the family from danger...and the obvious lack of training), I sure would want to know about it and be able to intervene for the welfare of the puppy I bred. I would be grateful to someone who told me what was happening. We breeders remember the puppies we breed. Think about them thru their lifetimes and wonder how they are doing. Hope all our screening and interviews placed the dog in the best home possible.
Anyway,my thoughts on the subject. This incident was not the dog's fault. It was the owner's fault who put the dog and chickens in harm's way thru their mishandling and misunderstanding of this "gentle giant" breed.
Best,
Karen in Ligonier.
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Pentamom.... SUGGEST that you get as big of one (floor) space as possible since you will be wintering them inside.
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Amen Sally! Figure for large fowl chicks, one will want 1/2 sq. ft. per chick floor space till they are 2 weeks old.
Then 1 sq. ft. per chick till they are old enough to put outside.
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Karen in Ligonier
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karen i you are correct in say that good breeders of the gentle giants care about their pups. i have bull mastiffs. she will be 5 in march i speak with her breeder about 7 times a year.


chad if you can find the owners and they can't raise the pups on a bottle. i will raise the pups for them.. there is never a reason for the owners not to be able to bottle feed. those pups should and will survive. the only training they will need is social skills. which i have have an excellent dog here who would train them . i would do as karen says contact the people who bred that dog. they would take those pups in a sec to preserve the lineage. just irresponsible or more like ignorant people to giant breed dogs.
 
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Sally Sunshine said:
Holy CRAPOLLIES!! HATCH DAY Go CoolerBATOR GO!! WOW!! and all this with no electric for a week and then in the hospital and not being home to Moniter, weigh, candler OR TURN for a week, AND Day 18&19 HATCH!!!

I counted EIGHT that I put into the brooder bator and there is at least 6 more hatching!!!! Plus the 2 already in the brooder!!! Plus my poor 8 eggs that I had to add from Chad!!! BCMXComets that are probably getting smooshy with this hatching going on and I had to keep them in there because of instant lockdown : ( see that little blacky off to the left in the front??? Thats the ONLY little polish guy that hatched for harmony, the rest were scrambled : ( she is upset, but holy crap look at the rest!! BRAHMA CITY!!

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OMG They are soo cute!!! what is the black one to the far left??
 
Quick question...do any of you own turkeys? I was thinking about a turkey for my husband...he wanted a peacock and unfortunately I'm not building (Or buying) another house for them. I figured a turkey could live with the chickens...I would want a turkey egg though to hatch. Let them grow up together...
 

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