Pied gene in chickens?

[MysteryChicken]

Gonna be doing some experimental breeding next year with my Big Baby. He throws Wheatens, Birchens, & Black, & white patchy offspring. The patchiness includes the skin color. I find it interesting.

Thinking about crossing him to a Silkie, & a Mille Fleur D'uccle. If you have an idea on what to cross him too, let me know?

 

[MysteryChicken]

@RoostersAreAwesome?

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Is that your marans mix? You think he’s pied?

 

[MysteryChicken]

Is that your marans mix? You think he’s pied?

I don't 100% think he's pied, I need to do some experimenting. I think piedbaldism may be more linked to Albinism, more then mottling. Or possibly a similar mutation, if that makes sense.

Yes, he's my Marans cross.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

I don't 100% think he's pied, I need to do some experimenting. I think piedbaldism may be more linked to Albinism, more then mottling. Or possibly a similar mutation, if that makes sense.

Yes, he's my Marans cross.

I don’t know. Though I supposed you could try to cross him with a silkie you know is pure for black skin to see if that affects his offspring at all.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I don’t know. Though I supposed you could try to cross him with a silkie you know is pure for black skin to see if that affects his offspring at all.

I crossed him to a silkie exactly like that in 2019, the results were pink skin w/black patches, black spots on the down in alignment with black skin patches, on the females, & a male I hatched out was Wheaten.

I never got to see how the white, & black chicks grow out since I sold them though. So I gotta replicate it again.

 

[BoogieWight]

That might be a bad picture, but it has a single comb. It does split at the back like a "kings/carnation" comb or whatever they call it. That came from the original fayoumi, but I don't know of anyone touting pure egyptian fayoumis. It was hard enough to look at the initial batch before purchasing. I will try to get a picture of the comb before the sun goes down. Just being honest here, but I have no clue where that bird sleeps at night.

I was told that I am an idiot by my old lady who promptly pointed to the birds in the tree. I was wrong these two are from the exact same parentage

Above is the first bird I posted. It absolutely does have a rose comb, so i was wrong. I'm not big on showing birds, breed standards, and such, although I do like to go to the shows. Are ancona not allowed to have rose combs? About half of mine do.

Above is the one I was thinking about with the carnation comb. They are both incubator hatches with the same parentage, however second generation mutts can look very similar or very different.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

I was told that I am an idiot by my old lady who promptly pointed to the birds in the tree. I was wrong these two are from the exact same parentageView attachment 2670083
Above is the first bird I posted. It absolutely does have a rose comb, so i was wrong. I'm not big on showing birds, breed standards, and such, although I do like to go to the shows. Are ancona not allowed to have rose combs? About half of mine do.
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Above is the one I was thinking about with the carnation comb. They are both incubator hatches with the same parentage, however second generation mutts can look very similar or very different.

Do you have pictures of the parents? I just figured out that there are rose comb anconas, they’re just less common. Still, I’m confused on how that chick got mottling at all, since it would only have one mottling gene (from the ancona).

 

[MysteryChicken]

His offspring.
First chick next to a regular Silkie chick.

View of the chick's back.

Second chick from second batch.

and here's the Wheaten that was produced in the second batch also.

 

[BoogieWight]

Do you have pictures of the parents? I just figured out that there are rose comb anconas, they’re just less common. Still, I’m confused on how that chick got mottling at all, since it would only have one mottling gene (from the ancona).

It is dark now, but if I remember I will get some and post them.
I am pretty sure that I read a paper on some research that was done in japan that discussed in part how the mottling gene can be expressed somewhat significantly even in birds that are heterozygous for the trait.