Pigeon Bulletin Board?

[CCUK]

This time of year food supplies for hawks seem to be less available. Many birds migrated south. Many rodents remain in hiding VS. in the open. Resident hawks still need to eat.


Caveman's update on feed purchase. Yes it was on SALE,,,
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8 BAGS WILD BIRD SEEDS....(40 Lbs. each) 1 BAG BOSS (50 Lbs.)
370 pounds heavier in the cave storage.
$100 lighter in the wallet.
Most of it will end up in this feeder. I regularly see wild Mourning Doves feeding on the ground below feeder. (not the white ones)
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Pix is from previous winter.

This is summer time use.View attachment 1583687
And the BOSS well these are the #1 contenders at least for half+ of that bag.
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My chickens will get some instead of scratch

Wow! That's alot of feed! It's nice you feed the wildy. They do struggle to find food especially with that much snow!

 

[biophiliac]

Wow! That's alot of feed! It's nice you feed the wildy. They do struggle to find food especially with that much snow!

X2!

This time of year food supplies for hawks seem to be less available. Many birds migrated south. Many rodents remain in hiding VS. in the open. Resident hawks still need to eat.


Caveman's update on feed purchase. Yes it was on SALE,,,
View attachment 1583678
8 BAGS WILD BIRD SEEDS....(40 Lbs. each) 1 BAG BOSS (50 Lbs.)
370 pounds heavier in the cave storage.
$100 lighter in the wallet.
Most of it will end up in this feeder. I regularly see wild Mourning Doves feeding on the ground below feeder. (not the white ones)
View attachment 1583685
Pix is from previous winter.

This is summer time use.View attachment 1583687
And the BOSS well these are the #1 contenders at least for half+ of that bag.
View attachment 1583686
My chickens will get some instead of scratch

Trending on TWITTER! lol Caveman's Avian Buffet and Food Pantry opening soon.
Well done my friend.

 

[biophiliac]

Well its hard to be struct with homers since they route and cant hear the whistle/bell. How many flyers do you have now? Or how many where you flying before the incident? With the hawk migration it could have been a hawk passing through. Sorry.

I have 16 that fly now, basically all of them except 2 nestlings and a hen with an injured/broken wing(vet assessment tomorrow morning).

I would typically let them out to fly in the morning while I cleaned the loft. During the summer I have had birds raising young and I did not want to restrict feed for that reason. After cleaning the loft and of course watching the birds fly I would put out fresh food with the feed call. Since they weren't terribly hungry about half would choose to delay their return and instead do pigeony things like searching the road for grit, grazing on weeds and hanging on the roof. Usually all were back in by 11am or thereabouts. Most days I would let them fly again later in the day. I kind of suspect my birds were taken from the ground as the feathers were found in locations where the line of sight is blocked and an ambush seems quite feasible. While flying I have seen my birds easily out fly the local Red-tails.

 

[WVduckchick]

Yes last week. I didn't see it happen but I found feathers and blood in the road and another huge pile of feathers in the neighbors backyard. There are several resident Red-tails but they didn't bother my birds all summer. I have not been strict with them about returning directly to the loft...

I guess we have to take the bad with the good. Still doesn’t make it any easier.

This time of year food supplies for hawks seem to be less available. Many birds migrated south. Many rodents remain in hiding VS. in the open. Resident hawks still need to eat.


Caveman's update on feed purchase. Yes it was on SALE,,,
View attachment 1583678
8 BAGS WILD BIRD SEEDS....(40 Lbs. each) 1 BAG BOSS (50 Lbs.)
370 pounds heavier in the cave storage.
$100 lighter in the wallet.
Most of it will end up in this feeder. I regularly see wild Mourning Doves feeding on the ground below feeder. (not the white ones)
View attachment 1583685
Pix is from previous winter.

This is summer time use.View attachment 1583687
And the BOSS well these are the #1 contenders at least for half+ of that bag.
View attachment 1583686
My chickens will get some instead of scratch

SCORE!
Beautiful pics too

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

This time of year food supplies for hawks seem to be less available. Many birds migrated south. Many rodents remain in hiding VS. in the open. Resident hawks still need to eat.


Caveman's update on feed purchase. Yes it was on SALE,,,
View attachment 1583678
8 BAGS WILD BIRD SEEDS....(40 Lbs. each) 1 BAG BOSS (50 Lbs.)
370 pounds heavier in the cave storage.
$100 lighter in the wallet.
Most of it will end up in this feeder. I regularly see wild Mourning Doves feeding on the ground below feeder. (not the white ones)
View attachment 1583685
Pix is from previous winter.

This is summer time use.View attachment 1583687
And the BOSS well these are the #1 contenders at least for half+ of that bag.
View attachment 1583686
My chickens will get some instead of scratch

awesome buy!!
Amd the pics are beautiful!

X2!


Trending on TWITTER! lol Caveman's Avian Buffet and Food Pantry opening soon.
Well done my friend.

 

[biophiliac]

Summary of Doba's Vet exam. Dr Schreiner sees some birds but is not a specialist. She was able to examin the wing from shoulder to tip and did not find evidence of fracture so the possible fracture mentioned below refers to a bone in the body (maybe akin to our collar bone? i need to review the pigeon skeleton!) that could only be revealed on x-ray. I decided against x-ray since if it reveals a fracture there is not much that can be done other than what i'm doing. When she is observed on the floor, she can extend her wing out to the side but doesn't flap it much. When she first retracts it again it droops noticeably by about a cm but after about a minute she has it repositioned normally. Euthanasia was discussed but I am going to give her some more time, follow the physical therapy advice below and try some homeopathy before i give up on her.
The very good news is she has a nice crop of pin feathers coming in over the scalped area.
...so below is the abreviated summary of the visit for anyone interested...
Doba's care team was: Doctor: Allison Schreiner, DVM CVT: Carmen Findings: Doba was seen today after sustaining a trauma 3 weeks ago and noticing a right wing droop 1.5 weeks ago. Doba was been otherwise doing well at home and her wounds have healed nicely. Her problem may be due to a bone fracture or nerve damage from the trauma - she is non-painful on examination today and has a good range of motion to her wing. Today we discussed options for imaging to confirm if Doba has a potential fracture to the bones of her wing. At this time, you are going to monitor Doba, keep her in the house with minimal activity and do short physical therapy exercises to try to encourage increased muscle mass. Please keep Doba in a confined area without perches to prevent her from trying to fly which may cause further trauma. She should have enough room to walk around and groom normally. Twice daily if she allows, you can do passive range of motion exercises with her by extending her wing to prevent atrophy and muscle tension. It is possible that Doba may never regain flight. If this occurs, she may need to permanently become an indoor bird. Please monitor her quality of life

 

[Kiki]

Remind me please.

You aren't sure what happened to her right?
You think it was her buddy that injured her?

 

[WVduckchick]

Summary of Doba's Vet exam. Dr Schreiner sees some birds but is not a specialist. She was able to examin the wing from shoulder to tip and did not find evidence of fracture so the possible fracture mentioned below refers to a bone in the body (maybe akin to our collar bone? i need to review the pigeon skeleton!) that could only be revealed on x-ray. I decided against x-ray since if it reveals a fracture there is not much that can be done other than what i'm doing. When she is observed on the floor, she can extend her wing out to the side but doesn't flap it much. When she first retracts it again it droops noticeably by about a cm but after about a minute she has it repositioned normally. Euthanasia was discussed but I am going to give her some more time, follow the physical therapy advice below and try some homeopathy before i give up on her.
The very good news is she has a nice crop of pin feathers coming in over the scalped area.
...so below is the abreviated summary of the visit for anyone interested...
Doba's care team was: Doctor: Allison Schreiner, DVM CVT: Carmen Findings: Doba was seen today after sustaining a trauma 3 weeks ago and noticing a right wing droop 1.5 weeks ago. Doba was been otherwise doing well at home and her wounds have healed nicely. Her problem may be due to a bone fracture or nerve damage from the trauma - she is non-painful on examination today and has a good range of motion to her wing. Today we discussed options for imaging to confirm if Doba has a potential fracture to the bones of her wing. At this time, you are going to monitor Doba, keep her in the house with minimal activity and do short physical therapy exercises to try to encourage increased muscle mass. Please keep Doba in a confined area without perches to prevent her from trying to fly which may cause further trauma. She should have enough room to walk around and groom normally. Twice daily if she allows, you can do passive range of motion exercises with her by extending her wing to prevent atrophy and muscle tension. It is possible that Doba may never regain flight. If this occurs, she may need to permanently become an indoor bird. Please monitor her quality

Not totally bad news. Bones can heal in time.
But even if she loses flight capability, doesn't mean she won't still be happy outside. You just may need to make some special previsions for her. My parlor rollers seem quite happy on the ground, and they can climb the ramps, and hop onto short things.

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

Summary of Doba's Vet exam. Dr Schreiner sees some birds but is not a specialist. She was able to examin the wing from shoulder to tip and did not find evidence of fracture so the possible fracture mentioned below refers to a bone in the body (maybe akin to our collar bone? i need to review the pigeon skeleton!) that could only be revealed on x-ray. I decided against x-ray since if it reveals a fracture there is not much that can be done other than what i'm doing. When she is observed on the floor, she can extend her wing out to the side but doesn't flap it much. When she first retracts it again it droops noticeably by about a cm but after about a minute she has it repositioned normally. Euthanasia was discussed but I am going to give her some more time, follow the physical therapy advice below and try some homeopathy before i give up on her.
The very good news is she has a nice crop of pin feathers coming in over the scalped area.
...so below is the abreviated summary of the visit for anyone interested...
Doba's care team was: Doctor: Allison Schreiner, DVM CVT: Carmen Findings: Doba was seen today after sustaining a trauma 3 weeks ago and noticing a right wing droop 1.5 weeks ago. Doba was been otherwise doing well at home and her wounds have healed nicely. Her problem may be due to a bone fracture or nerve damage from the trauma - she is non-painful on examination today and has a good range of motion to her wing. Today we discussed options for imaging to confirm if Doba has a potential fracture to the bones of her wing. At this time, you are going to monitor Doba, keep her in the house with minimal activity and do short physical therapy exercises to try to encourage increased muscle mass. Please keep Doba in a confined area without perches to prevent her from trying to fly which may cause further trauma. She should have enough room to walk around and groom normally. Twice daily if she allows, you can do passive range of motion exercises with her by extending her wing to prevent atrophy and muscle tension. It is possible that Doba may never regain flight. If this occurs, she may need to permanently become an indoor bird. Please monitor her quality of life

Not too bad.. and she may still regain flight.. can always hope!
But if not.. like Nat said.. she may be perfectly happy without flying too!

 

[CCUK]

Summary of Doba's Vet exam. Dr Schreiner sees some birds but is not a specialist. She was able to examin the wing from shoulder to tip and did not find evidence of fracture so the possible fracture mentioned below refers to a bone in the body (maybe akin to our collar bone? i need to review the pigeon skeleton!) that could only be revealed on x-ray. I decided against x-ray since if it reveals a fracture there is not much that can be done other than what i'm doing. When she is observed on the floor, she can extend her wing out to the side but doesn't flap it much. When she first retracts it again it droops noticeably by about a cm but after about a minute she has it repositioned normally. Euthanasia was discussed but I am going to give her some more time, follow the physical therapy advice below and try some homeopathy before i give up on her.
The very good news is she has a nice crop of pin feathers coming in over the scalped area.
...so below is the abreviated summary of the visit for anyone interested...
Doba's care team was: Doctor: Allison Schreiner, DVM CVT: Carmen Findings: Doba was seen today after sustaining a trauma 3 weeks ago and noticing a right wing droop 1.5 weeks ago. Doba was been otherwise doing well at home and her wounds have healed nicely. Her problem may be due to a bone fracture or nerve damage from the trauma - she is non-painful on examination today and has a good range of motion to her wing. Today we discussed options for imaging to confirm if Doba has a potential fracture to the bones of her wing. At this time, you are going to monitor Doba, keep her in the house with minimal activity and do short physical therapy exercises to try to encourage increased muscle mass. Please keep Doba in a confined area without perches to prevent her from trying to fly which may cause further trauma. She should have enough room to walk around and groom normally. Twice daily if she allows, you can do passive range of motion exercises with her by extending her wing to prevent atrophy and muscle tension. It is possible that Doba may never regain flight. If this occurs, she may need to permanently become an indoor bird. Please monitor her quality of life

I think that sounds promising. Its great her wound is feathering up. She is in the best place. I'm taking missys bandage off on Monday. I'm so hopeful that it will be OK. She still must stay in the cage for atleast another 4 weeks though. I'll have to try see what movement she has. She hasn't moved it at all so atrophy will be a real possibility.