Pigeon Talk

[biophiliac]

And if you don't know how to do tube feeding but are willing to give it a shot, I'm happy to walk you through it.

Thanks! I'm sure @Pigeon28 will appreciate your support. I'm happy to know you are keeping an eye on us over here!

 

[Pigeon28]

I didn't recall you mentioning the neck twisting before or I might have thought about pmv.

He wasn’t doing the neck twisting before tonight but once I saw it, it made my think pmv for sure, although I could be wrong still but it made me more sure

And if you don't know how to do tube feeding but are willing to give it a shot, I'm happy to walk you through it.

Thankyou so much, I may end up needing to take you up on that because I’m definitely willing to try!

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

Thsnkyo

thankyou for the help and replies. I believe it is pmv due to neck wrenching. Should I still force feed him? And my next question is how did he get this?!?!

If the bird is important to you and you are trying to save it, then yes you should force feed it if it's not eating. Neck wrenching could also be paratyphoid. The droppings are going to be important here... paramyxovirus will typically be like a pool of water with a small snake/worm of feces in the center, and paratyphoid will typically be watery, green, and very foul smelling. As far as how it got whatever it has, I don't know. Have you had any other pigeon fanciers over visiting your loft? Diseases can be brought in by shoes of other people (I let nobody in or near my loft). Do they have access to outside? Do you fly them? or any feral pigeons come by? ferals can definitely spread things to your birds. It's hard to say where this came from. Now if it is PMV, and if it recovers, it will most likely only be a pet afterwards. Sometimes the neck twist doesn't go away, and stress can also sometimes bring a relapse of symptoms in them. Were these birds vaccinated? If they weren't vaccinated, and it is in fact PMV, it is very very strange that only one of them came down with it...

 

[Pigeon28]

If the bird is important to you and you are trying to save it, then yes you should force feed it if it's not eating. Neck wrenching could also be paratyphoid. The droppings are going to be important here... paramyxovirus will typically be like a pool of water with a small snake/worm of feces in the center, and paratyphoid will typically be watery, green, and very foul smelling. As far as how it got whatever it has, I don't know. Have you had any other pigeon fanciers over visiting your loft? Diseases can be brought in by shoes of other people (I let nobody in or near my loft). Do they have access to outside? Do you fly them? or any feral pigeons come by? ferals can definitely spread things to your birds. It's hard to say where this came from. Now if it is PMV, and if it recovers, it will most likely only be a pet afterwards. Sometimes the neck twist doesn't go away, and stress can also sometimes bring a relapse of symptoms in them. Were these birds vaccinated? If they weren't vaccinated, and it is in fact PMV, it is very very strange that only one of them came down with it...

Nobody from any other loft or anywhere outside my family has been in the loft so couldn’t be from that. There are some ferals down the road and they do loft fly but I doubt they got hooked up with them. The loft floor is scraped every other day if not daily. I didn’t vaccinate because the person I got them from said he hasn’t and has never had any issues so I got the 4-1 to give them but was waiting until after I wormed them, didn’t work out very well I guess.

 

[WVduckchick]

We have a new one today!
This is Bugsy’s baby.

 

[backyard pigeons]

But this only happen to this pair
I have other pairs with same treatment and they are laying and hatching

you have been given great advice by @cavemanrich ! You can take it, and fix your problem, or you can continue losing eggs. I hope this helps!

Thsnkyo

thankyou for the help and replies. I believe it is pmv due to neck wrenching. Should I still force feed him? And my next question is how did he get this?!?!

I'm so sorry. I hate this for you. Sorry I didn't get alerts, or I would have tried to help more. But you have been given great advice! Don't worry about not vaccinating birds. The healthiest birds don't need it.

We have a new one today!
This is Bugsy’s baby.
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wow! Have you hit the 50 bird mark yet? The 20 bird mark is what I "promised" I wouldn't surpass... 20 more than 20 isn't too bad, right?

 

[backyard pigeons]

I tossed 9 birds yesterday, about 7 miles away. They all got back in good time, but one had a broken leg. it is snapped right below the knee. I splinted it, and and casted it. anything else I can do? Broken legs can heal, but don't always heal right. What do y'all think?

My best guess is it hit a power line. It was scraped a little, but not like a hawk got it.

 

[biophiliac]

I tossed 9 birds yesterday, about 7 miles away. They all got back in good time, but one had a broken leg. it is snapped right below the knee. I splinted it, and and casted it. anything else I can do? Broken legs can heal, but don't always heal right. What do y'all think?

My best guess is it hit a power line. It was scraped a little, but not like a hawk got it.

I think you did the right thing and he will heal. He's like the war pigeons who completed the mission despite injury.
If the bone pierced the skin, check if he would need antibiotic. @Pyxis ??
To heal a bone fracture faster, I use homeopathic remedy Symphytum Officinalis 30C.

 

[WVduckchick]

wow! Have you hit the 50 bird mark yet? The 20 bird mark is what I "promised" I wouldn't surpass... 20 more than 20 isn't too bad, right?

I'm actually only at 33 as of today (4 hatched since last Sunday)

Several of my recent pairs lost one baby each. And I had a juvenile die a couple weeks ago.

Good luck with the broken leg, and congrats on a successful flight/return!

 

[backyard pigeons]

If the bone pierced the skin, check if he would need antibiotic.

Thankfully the bone didn't pierce it. I will watch for infection though.