Please help list reasons why NOT to hatch like this!

[yinepu]

So am I to assume that hatcheries that hatch 10s of thousands of chicks every day have thousands of people that help them out?

I think they let them hatch on their own.

I'm probably one of the few people here who has worked at commercial hatcheries.. so I can speak from experience

And NO.. they don't assist.. they are also using high tech (computerized) hatchers and incubators in climate controlled rooms

If there are chicks that aren't hatched and ready to go they get tossed.. not many hatcheries have the time to invest in peeling off shells of late hatchers.. so those chicks are disposed of .. extra eggs are set before hand to cover losses due to rotten eggs or late hatch chicks

what the average person on here is doing though is not in a climate controlled room.. we don't use the big walk in hatchers in our homes.. we use smaller cabinet incubators, table top incubators or homemade ones or even broody hens

to compare this woman moving the shell to a commercial hatchery is just insane ..she did not help it out.. no where did I see her reach in and pull that chick out of the shell.. she merely moved the shell with tweezers for what I am assuming was for a better view for her camera.. the chick was most of the way out anyway and if she did assist at any point that is HER CALL to make!! Heck.. if she had used her hands someone would be whining and complaining that she didn't wash them first!

many people on here have assisted chicks at hatch.. for those who want to argue that it's not meant to live well..my argument for that is what we are doing is ARTIFICIAL incubation.. there is nothing natural about hatching chicks out in incubators.. once we put an egg in there WE are playing "god" and if you choose to let chicks die in the shell it's YOUR call on YOUR eggs only!.. to say a chick should be allowed to die in the shell is the choice of the owner of the eggs .. NOT everyone else who wants to stick their noses in everyone elses business.

 

[yinepu]

TODAY I HAD TO PEEL AN EGG SO THE CHICK COULD COME OUT. THE MEMBRANE WAS RUBBERY AND IT COULDNT PIERCE THRU IT. I THOT THE VIDEO WAS GREAT... SO FOLKS DONT BE AFRAID TO HELP A CHICK OUT!!!!

many times when a chick is stuck in the shell it's a perfectly healthy chick that would have hatched just fine under a broody hen.. the difference is something went wrong in our "un-natural" incubators which caused an issue.. usually it's something as simple as fan placement or the vents being closed.. or the humidity being a bit off.. so I say if you feel the need to right something that went wrong by assisting a chick.. go for it.. many perfectly healthy chicks can be saved because someone dared to go in like you did..

the other side of the coin is those who do not wish to assist.. again I say.. they are YOUR eggs in YOUR bator.. do with them as you will just don't give someone else a bunch of crap if they decide to do differently

 

[Tootsie]

There is a big difference IMHO between helping a chick out that is trapped due to a rubbery shrunken membrane and pulling the shell off which was not needed at all in this case . My main concern was that the bator lid was totally off for who knows how long. I have heard sad stories from people who had chicks die due to others constantly opening the lid at events such as a science fair or classroom setting so then they did not open lid next hatch was better.

 

[yinepu]

There is a big difference IMHO between helping a chick out that is trapped due to a rubbery shrunken membrane and pulling the shell off which was not needed at all in this case .

the chick was as much as out of the shell.. what she did was no different than one of the other chicks rolling the shell around or a broody hen shifting her weight

I swear y'all are blowing this way out of proportion...

 

[yinepu]

There is a big difference IMHO between helping a chick out that is trapped due to a rubbery shrunken membrane and pulling the shell off which was not needed at all in this case . My main concern was that the bator lid was totally off for who knows how long. I have heard sad stories from people who had chicks die due to others constantly opening the lid at events such as a science fair or classroom setting so then they did not open lid next hatch was better.

And I open mine all the time and have excellent hatches! heck.. i have walked away to go wash my hands leaving the bator completely open.. or had it opened while removing chicks and weighing them.. so NO opening an incubator won't cause every egg to shrink wrap or cause the chicks to die in their shells!.. that is an old wives tale which is promoted every time someone starts yammering on about the "lockdown" rule... I have multiple incubators that are homemade where the lids are open a good 1/2 inch throughout incubation AND hatch as well as having lots of air holes drilled in and I never have shrinkwrapped chicks.. because I made sure that the incubator design was that where the fan wouldn't dry out the chicks.

without having every bit of info as to what happened during the other people problem hatches as well as knowing what make and model of incubator they used it's impossible to prove that opening the incubator for any length of time caused problems

more likely the problems were caused by fan placement .. a fan blowing directly onto a hatching egg with a large pip CAN cause shrink wrapping even if the humidity in that incubator is in the 80% range

 

[Heidisgran]

So am I to assume that hatcheries that hatch 10s of thousands of chicks every day have thousands of people that help them out?

I think they let them hatch on their own.

have you seen how the hatcheries treat the chicks...that's offensive

 

[gimmie birdies]

My hen has 3 eggs under her on day 18 "OH no!" should I add more sponges? Just kidding.

 

[Heidisgran]

My hen has 3 eggs under her on day 18 "OH no!" should I add more sponges? Just kidding.

ha ha! broody's are the best

 

[yinepu]

My hen has 3 eggs under her on day 18 "OH no!" should I add more sponges? Just kidding.

 

[yinepu]

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yup.. the ones I worked at would "dispose" of any chick that wasn't out and fully fluffed up when we pulled the racks from that hatcher.. so any chick that hatched on any given day was luckier to hatch out in the last rack that was pulled that day (gave them more time to get out of the shell and fluff)...