Please help list reasons why NOT to hatch like this!

[Tootsie]

I never put sponges under my broody hens either, pretty funny . I did once have a chick shrink wrapped under a hen though. It was sad.

 

[AZBootsie]

LOL poor Tootsie. You are not getting the info you were looking for. While the video doesn't bother me, I would not encourage anyone to use it as a teaching tool. So, if it is being passed around your 4Her's just make sure they understand if is for cuteness ....not a how to video.

Yes, those foam incubators with the huge tops do take a long time to regain their heat and moisture once kept open like that. Opening it up to make the video was not an ideal situation. Did it hurt anything?? probably not. Would I encourage my kids/students to do the same?? nope.

 

[Tootsie]

Thanks AZBootsie. I did not make the video only had it sent to me and the instructional was going to be the information gathered here through this post to explain why not to do this. They said 28 of 36 eggs hatched so I see probably the remaining eggs in there when lid was opened are most of the ones. I was only trying to help, I think you get where I was coming from and I thank you! I know if the membrane dries and turns white and gets rubbery you need to help but I always put the lid back on right away to try and keep the temp and humidity stable as possible.

 

[Roxannemc]

I dont think you should mess with the chick until you see he has a problem...... for a while ....not immediately .
Newbies SHOULD know that .. If anything .
Let the chick do it naturally unless its been 12 hours and no progress at all. And star cracks or tiny pips newbies should know that after they pip they are getting use to breathing air so not at all unusual to sit like that for many hours. Dont HELP THEM !!
They do rest after they get out too. Exausted.... Hours of hard work for them.

Didn't seem help was needed on that chick but hard to keep fingers away for anyone.Almost have to sit on your hands truly LOL

I have had chicks here and there hatch in 30- 40 humidity but that isn't ideal I dont think still it can happen even when the lids off Im sure on some .but why take a chance? .
However we all have our way we like t o do and what makes me cringe might be routine for someone else.

I too think this was just showing on film how their chicks hatched and how the kids enjoyed it. Not an instruction video
I would have been more mortified if she was peeling off shell and blood was coming out . but this.. not that bad.

Everyone is different personalities Some go by the BOOK ONLY ! other free style. JUst follow your heart and brain on what might be best for the chick not what YOU feel like doing and remember in most cases less is best

 

[Roxannemc]

As you say each to his own .Some ppl feel a chick that needs assisting is probably messed up somehow and I find of mine some are so cant say what another should do .However I have had many wins on assisting
I believe that with the hatcheries
. They are a business FIRST in it to sell healthy chicks so why take a chance and really impractical to pick chicks out of shells all day.

That said I watched a youtube video on chicks hatched in a commercial hatchery and it turned my stomach

The way they were treated like going down conveyor belts and dropped to another below on top of each other and im sure some get caught and killed or maimed in the mechanism or a foot under a belt etc.. and thrown in the trash treated like a piece of plastic not a living thing..... they are a living animal.You have more nerve to work there then I would have had..

I know Im a tree hugger or whatever..My philosophy Every living thing needs to get its chance in the living world if possible
I dont much like eating my fertile eggs either yeah dumb I know but a living cell with potential is in there
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Why I also dont eat lamb EVER ( they kill it at 3 months old or younger! tiny ) or veal

If I saw things killed we eat probably would become a vegetarian but have fooled myself into meat at the store is just" MEAT".... try and forget the living thing part .Hypocritical I know
Cant wait until beef is grown from animals cells and no cow etc is killed.They can do it now but 100 of K for one hamburger!
Well I digress. Sorry,.


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[yinepu]

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I don't know if you realize it or not.. but the chicken you buy at the grocery store wrapped up so nice and pretty are only 6 to 8 weeks old...

I've worked at both hatcheries and slaughter houses.. so I know what goes on behind the "closed doors" all to well..
at the hatcheries the chicks are on large trays which come out of the hatcher racks.. these trays are oftentimes (depends on the hatchery) dumped into a larger tray at a window where the guy who is "pitching biddies" (yup.. that's the term they used) will pull out the live fluffed chicks.. usually by their head or a leg or whatever he can grab, then toss them through a window onto the "carousel" .. the carousel is a belt that goes around in a circle where the packers will inject them with the vaccines by grabbing the chick and pressing it up against a box which has the injector (a small needle that pops out when pressed against injecting a measured dose of vaccine).. if the chick is pressed against the needle in the wrong spot it will be dead within a few minutes ... often times the person doing the injection will get stuck by a needle ... since they go through thousands of chicks in a day they move at a pretty quick pace......once the chick has been injected (if that's what is being called for ) they will be tossed into a waiting tray to be packed into a shipping box.. or a tray which is stacked and then loaded onto a truck.. the chicks that die from the injections are pulled and tossed by a person who walks around pulling dead chicks.. in all these little guys get picked up by whatever body parts the people can grab.. are tossed several times and may or may not die from injections.. so they go through a lot before they even make it onto a truck ... also.. any chicks that touch the floor are "contaminated" and disposed of as well... especially if they are meat birds...

 

[yinepu]

Thanks AZBootsie. I did not make the video only had it sent to me and the instructional was going to be the information gathered here through this post to explain why not to do this. They said 28 of 36 eggs hatched so I see probably the remaining eggs in there when lid was opened are most of the ones. I was only trying to help, I think you get where I was coming from and I thank you! I know if the membrane dries and turns white and gets rubbery you need to help but I always put the lid back on right away to try and keep the temp and humidity stable as possible.

if they were shipped eggs.. the rest could have been clears or scrambled..
even if they weren't shipped .. the others could have died from bumping or jarring while being turned.. bacterial infection.. temp swings.. fertility issues.. diet of the parent stock and so on.. without knowing every detail it's impossible to blame the non hatchers on opening the incubator since there are so many factors which can affect hatch rates