Plymouth Rock thread!

[Egghead_Jr]

I'm no geneticist but did think the Splash absence of color continued to wash legs. Kinda think your roo came from a blue legged stock so shows in the hens.

I dunno, just been really researching and picture viewing this past week. I've seen photos of British bantam Blue Rocks that are stunning. Yellow legs and the true blue lacing. They no doubt used Seabright in the mix and hatched hundreds to cull to one rooster to carry it on with a few line matings. It's just so stunning to see and have been playing with the idea of using some quality laced Wyandotte under my rooster to start out....but lawd is that a long road that's fraught with luck or hatching a thousand eggs to get that roo. Then more culling to get single comb then back to good Plymouth stock to improve type...lawd...I got time as I'm only 42 but quite the project.

Here's an example of the bantams I'd mentioned and have seen some with real Andalusion lacing.

http://www.plymouth-rock-poultry.co.uk/blueplymouthrocks.htm

Of course it would be much simpler to work in the Wyandotte direction both for ability to continue with the Laced on second mating and easier to cull out the single comb. My partner has always wanted a few quality Dottes but my preference is on the Rock rooster not that puffball with short tail feathers they pass off as a chicken.

 

[DMRippy]

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[BRITROCK]

Hi a couple of pictures of Blues


LF and an bantam cockerels, both winners and both were owned by Tom Newbould. He no longer breeds Blues concentrates on Barreds I have his Blue bantams, Splash Cock, blue and a black pullet. I think all Rocks legs are naturally a slate blue colour and it's the linkage genes which clears them and they become yellow. The darker barreds here have the better leg colour providing we make sure we do not over use the Light cockerels.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

Leg coloring is wonderful there. Bright golden corn as if just off the fire and then peeling husk...fresh and sweet.

How is the lacing going with the old Newfold bantam stock? And do you think the SOP calls for full lacing or an edging like we can achieve by going back to black?

 

[BRITROCK]

Hi Egghead-Jr
I haven't hatched any yet and if I'm honest I don't know much about them. Tom gave them to me because he's making room for more Barred.
The black pullet he gave me is from his barred stock which I have with a barred male. The splash cockerel will give me all Blues I think? I will get some photo on this week.

 

[tigercreek]

This guy is not bad, he was mine, but not bred from my flock. At the time, I was not taking pics of legs, but there is a hint there that they are yellow. Fla birds do not get that strong yellow color with out supplements....

 

[BlueCamas]

Here's a couple of pics of my Blue Bantam Cockerel. His leg color is decent though not nearly as good as some of my Black males. He doesn't have any access to fresh greens which probably isn't helping out his color.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

Hi Egghead-Jr
I haven't hatched any yet and if I'm honest I don't know much about them. Tom gave them to me because he's making room for more Barred.
The black pullet he gave me is from his barred stock which I have with a barred male. The splash cockerel will give me all Blues I think? I will get some photo on this week.

I'm no mentor but think you need to pick Tom's brain on this blue bantam strain he grew out. I'm sure all the knowledge you need is there. Obviously from there on these boards are American judges and breeders to choose from if they pick you and your stock up to aid in improvement. Rob Blos. is really busy from my readings, but a source to try and get with. He admits he's unfamiliar whit this color (FROM READINGS AND NEVER SPOKE TO) but a vast resource in type and breeding in general. There are people out there and with your stock would be happy to aid you in preserving it.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

One thing I do know is if you breed out of the lacing you must breed offspring back to get a good # of possible lacings. Basically if held to strain and all else is bred out they will lace each and every breeding on blue. When introducing a new lineage you must bread your cock to offspring (second line mating of laced male) to ensure the lacing continues or it can get lost and your left here with the rest of us with lavender/grey chickens! Not blue with lacing.


Um...that's overly confusing. sorry. What I was trying to say is if you try an introduce new blood you should keep notes on what's going on and use bands. You'll get all screwy with an intro of lineage and it takes your (hopefully you kept him) laced cock to breed back to offspring. There you get about 1 in 16 blue laced again to work and work back to breed standard then hold color...

Basically if you hold linieage to 4 years you've a pure Andalusion laced type that only gives a splash, black and laced blue. Any combo in this line gives same result. New blood to improve takes sire to breed pullets (they will be unlaced) to better chance not losing the lace.

 

[2 britts]

Hope to start hatching some eggs from my blues and one black in another month or so.