Plymouth Rock thread!

Agree. Saying whose foundation stock they came from pays respect to that breeder, I feel, but after a generation or two of selecting and breeding, they aren't "that person's name" anymore, that is for sure.

Another thing that keeps us humble in this fancy is that although I may get a dozen chicks from a very famous line, there are zero guarantees that anything I got, in the luck of the draw, is top notch, as is. The work still lies ahead. It is a sobering thing to consider that even great birds can really, really go backward fast, another sobering thought. Making good decisions and committing to a 4 or 5 year process can be daunting, but is almost always required.
 
Scott is right. Walt can tell you in two to three years a beginner can say they are Mr. Jones line but they have reversed backwards and Mr. Jones may not be proud of what the buyer is saying they came from Mr. Jones. However, I still give credit to my old Mohawk line to Mr. E W Reese and Mrs. Dondalson who had them way may years than I.

They are still pure for over 100 years. and the birds that most people have today are doing a bang up job with them.

In regards to Plymouth Rock colored chickens they are just hovering to a level that are trying to improve. Many are working so hard to improve them.

I like the Buffs that Tom Roebuck is working on and seems he is keeping the hard work that Mark Peterson put into them for twenty years a going.

The Silvers and the Partridge have been on the back burner for years. They are making a come back.

The Columbian Project is on its third year and Scott is doing a great job on them. They are a Canadian trio that we got imported into the USA three years ago. Mostly a breeding down of whites and Light Brahma to make this line.

IN barred rocks there are a few lines out there and doing pretty good with them The Duckworth line is something I have not seen much of in the past two years but the males had pretty good tails. Some lines have good females and good color the males tails blow up after they are seven months old. Never will win at a show but there are a few breeders working hard to improve this.

All we can do in promote and encourage others to do their best and try to cull hard and improve them to the Standard. If they don't use the standard or at least copy the pictures of the Silver Penciled Rocks pictures in the past few days to their computer then they are just chicken collectors. They will not do the cause any good. You can have them but if you do not maintain them to a certain level they are no better than hatchery stuff. Keep up the good work and join the Plymouth Rock Club and support their cause. I am a life member and always will promote this breed and this great club.
 
I for one am very grateful to the breeders of the past. I am also very grateful for those breeders in establishing the American Standard of Perfection or say "Standard of Excellence". If not for them we would not have the great breeds that we have today. I do believe a breeder should show respect to the one that gave him or her their start. I also believe once a breeder begins using his or her own decision on what birds go into the breeding pen the offspring of that breeding pen starts the beginning of a new line. Be it good or bad a breeder can put his or her mark in time on that breed. It is all about making the right decision and keeping in the pursuit of breeding your birds to the Standard.
 
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I need to give cherylcohen a call and ask her what was she putting in her chicken feed. These look huge! :)

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I need to give cherylcohen a call and ask her what was she putting in her chicken feed. These look huge!
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It probly has a lot to do with the gene pool more so than the feed IMO Rocks are supposed to be big I have some BRs here that are enormous and some Columbians headed that way. They out grow my RIRs and NHs by a good bit it just takes them a few months more to do so. Everybody gets the same things to eat no special rations except during the breeding season here. ETA and of course chick grower right out of the gate LOL

Jeff
 
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It probly has a lot to do with the gene pool more so than the feed IMO Rocks are supposed to be big I have some BRs here that are enormous and some Columbians headed that way. They out grow my RIRs and NHs by a good bit it just takes them a few months more to do so. Everybody gets the same things to eat no special rations except during the breeding season here. ETA and of course chick grower right out of the gate LOL

Jeff


I agree with you 100%. Good genes is where it all starts. Without good genes it is hard to move forward.
 

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