Polish eye injury - 3 weeks later no improvement..help?

[Yoda]

Your Avelox (Moxifloxacin) is a fluoroquinolone antibiotic. It's in the same group of drugs as Cipro and Baytril, both are great antibiotics, so I'm sure yours is, too. Curiously, did your Dr, start you on the Amoclan then switch to Avelox after doing some blood work? All fluoroquinolones are banned for use here in the US for use in food animals, but many countries still allow their use. Your patient, lol, is a rooster, so if we can figure out what dose to use on him, you should never eat him.

Cannot use those drugs if the bird breeds with the chickens cause it will be passed on. That is the reason it is banned for food animals and POULTRY.

 

[casportpony]

FDA Bans Veterinary Drug
Baytril antibiotic, used in chickens and turkeys, causes resistant bacteria to emerge​

BETTE HILEMAN


The Food & Drug Administration has banned the use of the antibiotic Baytril in poultry because it causes resistance to emerge in Campylobacter bacteria. Campylobacter in poultry is one of the most common causes of severe bacterial food poisoning in humans.

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Baytril, a fluoroquinolone known generically as enrofloxacin, is the first veterinary drug to be banned because it leads to the emergence of resistant bacteria. It is chemically similar to the antibiotic Cipro, which is widely prescribed to treat food-borne illness in people. Use of Baytril in poultry, FDA says, reduces the effectiveness of Cipro in treating Campylobacter in humans. Baytril’s manufacturer, Bayer, has 60 days to appeal FDA’s decision.
Most of the Baytril given to chickens and turkeys is used for therapeutic, not growth promotion, purposes. When a respiratory infection shows up in a few birds in a flock, for example, Baytril is commonly given to the entire flock.
“This is a precedent-setting decision,” says Margaret Mellon, director of the Food & Environment Program at the Union of Concerned Scientists. “My expectation is that FDA will follow up by taking steps to cancel some of the nontherapeutic uses of human-use antibiotics in agriculture.”
“We applaud Commissioner [Lester M.] Crawford and the FDA for acting decisively to protect the public’s health,” says David Wallinga, a senior scientist and director of the Antibiotic Resistance Project at the Institute for Agriculture & Trade Policy. “Cipro is an essential antibiotic, and we cannot allow its effectiveness to be compromised by squandering it on poultry.”
“The loss of this product leaves poultry producers without an important tool to treat sick poultry, and it will reduce animal health and welfare while increasing animal death and suffering,” says a statement from the Animal Health Institute, which represents the manufacturers of animal health products.

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[casportpony]

Your Avelox (Moxifloxacin), if dosed like Ciprofloxin, would be dose at 10-40mg/kg twice a day... Still working on finding a proper reference.

This is one thing I found on it from:
www.wedgewoodpetrx.com/items/moxifloxacin-oral-suspension.html

Moxifloxacin is commonly prescribed for

• Infection-Bacterial

The dosage form available for Moxifloxacin is Oral Suspension.

3 strengths of Moxifloxacin Oral Suspension are available, ranging from 40 mg/ml to 80 mg/ml.

Other Dosage Forms Available:
Moxifloxacin is also available in this dosage form. Different strengths may be available for different dosage forms.

• Capsule

Available Flavors:
Anchovy; Apple; Apple-Molasses; BACON; Banana; Banana/Marshmallow; Beef; Beef/Chicken; Beef/Marshmallow; Bubble Gum; Butterscotch; Butterscotch-Vanilla; Caramel; Cherry; Cherry, wild; Cherry-Vanilla; Chicken, natural; Chicken-Marshmallow; Crème De Menthe; Double Bacon; Double Banana; Double Beef; Double chicken; Double Fish; Double Grape; Double Liver; Double Marshmallow; Double Molasses; Double Peanut Butter; Duck; Fish/Marshmallow; half fish; Orange; Peppermint; Pina Colada; Raspberry; Strawberry; Strawberry/Marshmallow; Triple Chicken; Triple-Fish; Tutti Fruitti; Vanilla/Marshmallow; Venison; Watermelon and Wintergreen (Methyl Salicylate).

 

[casportpony]

Spish, how many of the pills do you have? And how are your math skills?

 

[spish]

Your Avelox (Moxifloxacin) is a fluoroquinolone antibiotic. It's in the same group of drugs as Cipro and Baytril, both are great antibiotics, so I'm sure yours is, too. Curiously, did your Dr, start you on the Amoclan then switch to Avelox after doing some blood work? All fluoroquinolones are banned for use here in the US for use in food animals, but many countries still allow their use. Your patient, lol, is a rooster, so if we can figure out what dose to use on him, you should never eat him.

no, i was first on the amoclan, but it wasnt helping so was switched to the avelox, but after just 2 doses it turns out i was severly allergic to it and ended up in hospital to receive anti b's via a drip so i still have 8 tablets of the avelox out of a box of ten.
my math skills arent what id call great..but i can give it a go!

thanks everyone for the suggestions so far. sadly as stated we cant easily get hold of injectable anti biotics here so i have to use what i have to hand. i could go to a vets and ask but with fee's of €50 just to be seen without the diagnosis and meds on top im not willing to pay that for 1 rooster.
none of our polish enter the food chain here..they are classed as a decorative chicken so aren't eaten. i have 3 other polish roosters i can use for breeding so he wont have to be used...but i want to give a shot at helping him as he deserves it (he's a Cheeky little roo belonging to my son)

 

[casportpony]

no, i was first on the amoclan, but it wasnt helping so was switched to the avelox, but after just 2 doses it turns out i was severly allergic to it and ended up in hospital to receive anti b's via a drip so i still have 8 tablets of the avelox out of a box of ten.
my math skills arent what id call great..but i can give it a go!

thanks everyone for the suggestions so far. sadly as stated we cant easily get hold of injectable anti biotics here so i have to use what i have to hand. i could go to a vets and ask but with fee's of €50 just to be seen without the diagnosis and meds on top im not willing to pay that for 1 rooster.
none of our polish enter the food chain here..they are classed as a decorative chicken so aren't eaten. i have 3 other polish roosters i can use for breeding so he wont have to be used...but i want to give a shot at helping him as he deserves it (he's a Cheeky little roo belonging to my son)

Your Amoclan is the type of drug that most vets would prescribe first, then, like your Doctor did, would switch to Avelox if it wasn't working. You need to weigh him so we can figure out the correct dose for him.

FWIW, my vet prescribed Clavamox 250 (200/50), which is like your Amoclan (875/125), but not as strong. The 4kg peacock got two tablets twice a day and the ones that weighed 2.3, 2.8 and 3kg got one tablet twice a day.

 

[casportpony]

Spish, how many Amoclans do you have left?

 

[spish]

i think 3 or 4 of those....
i dont have a weighing scale at the moment but i shall pick one up at the store tomorrow he's not a big or heavy rooster, bantam size?......id say he's about 1kg (i held him in one hand and a bag of Sugar in the other...didnt feel much different he was maybe a teeny bit heavier?)

 

[Haunted55]

no, i was first on the amoclan, but it wasnt helping so was switched to the avelox, but after just 2 doses it turns out i was severly allergic to it and ended up in hospital to receive anti b's via a drip so i still have 8 tablets of the avelox out of a box of ten.
my math skills arent what id call great..but i can give it a go!

thanks everyone for the suggestions so far. sadly as stated we cant easily get hold of injectable anti biotics here so i have to use what i have to hand. i could go to a vets and ask but with fee's of €50 just to be seen without the diagnosis and meds on top im not willing to pay that for 1 rooster.
none of our polish enter the food chain here..they are classed as a decorative chicken so aren't eaten. i have 3 other polish roosters i can use for breeding so he wont have to be used...but i want to give a shot at helping him as he deserves it (he's a Cheeky little roo belonging to my son)

Good for you!!! I am so very glad you are now getting the correct help! I am not well versed in sinus infections in birds, myself...oh yeah, my birds no.

 

[casportpony]

i think 3 or 4 of those....
i dont have a weighing scale at the moment but i shall pick one up at the store tomorrow he's not a big or heavy rooster, bantam size?......id say he's about 1kg (i held him in one hand and a bag of Sugar in the other...didnt feel much different he was maybe a teeny bit heavier?)

That will make it a little harder... We'll probably have to figure out a way to crush a pill, add a little water, mix well and dose (one pill is going to be way too much). While you're out shopping, is there any place where you can get a one ml/cc syringe? No needle needed.