Polish Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jnjmanning]

Well she is very real! I can't take a picture without her or her sister sticking their nosy beaks in! so If I crossed her with a silver laced would I get sex linked babies?

I have no idea what you will get...lol

 

[BGMatt]

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This looks to be a Tolbunt GL cross frizzle. But Matt will tell you there is no such thing because it is not recognized by APA,

Try reading the standard sometime (you also missed my point conpletely) I see nothing "Tolbunt" about this bird it is a frizzled golden laced polish, Which APA recognizes (all breeds and varieties are recognized in frizzle). If bred to a silver, they will be sexlinked, I would have to look it up to be totally positive but I think in the first generation the females are silver and the males are gold. It's a common outcross to do. A percentage would be frizzle and a percentage would be smooth but I have no experience with that so can't tell you what percentage.

Edit: originally had it backwards, no coffee yet this morning, the cross will give you Golden laced pullets and silver cockerels, unless the silver carries a dilute gene which will give you a lemon/buff color bird laced with black.

 

[jnjmanning]

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Try reading the standard sometime (you also missed my point conpletely) I see nothing "Tolbunt" about this bird it is a frizzled golden laced polish, Which APA recognizes (all breeds and varieties are recognized in frizzle). If bred to a silver, they will be sexlinked, I would have to look it up to be totally positive but I think in the first generation the females are silver and the males are gold. It's a common outcross to do. A percentage would be frizzle and a percentage would be smooth but I have no experience with that so can't tell you what percentage.

Edit: originally had it backwards, no coffee yet this morning, the cross will give you Golden laced pullets and silver cockerels, unless the silver carries a dilute gene which will give you a lemon/buff color bird laced with black.

It could also very well be a Tolbunt split.

 

[BGMatt]

Really? I thought that pattern was spangled/mottled type pattern over a laced pattern? I don't know, I don't have time for all these new fads people invent to try and make a quick buck.

Edit: read color description, doesn't say anything about lacing, so...I stand behind my original post.

 

[draye]

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So you are saying that there is no such thing as Project Polish? Come on APA and ABA ain't all that. They can't tell you what you can breed, nor if you want to create a new color.

 

[jnjmanning]

Really? I thought that pattern was spangled/mottled type pattern over a laced pattern? I don't know, I don't have time for all these new fads people invent to try and make a quick buck.

Edit: read color description, doesn't say anything about lacing, so...I stand behind my original post.

There is still no standard for Tolbunt. A lot of breeders are splitting with GL Polish to expand the gene pool. The white on the crest is what made me guess Tolbunt split. I believe the Tolbunt color will be a work in progress for some time to come. The Tolbunt color was brought to the US not created here. But its evident it is not a stable color pattern yet!

 

[sbucciarel]

Really? I thought that pattern was spangled/mottled type pattern over a laced pattern? I don't know, I don't have time for all these new fads people invent to try and make a quick buck.

Edit: read color description, doesn't say anything about lacing, so...I stand behind my original post.

Tolbunts are a very beautiful color of Polish that Tolbunt breeders are working on and they will no doubt have a standard and be recognized in due time. There are undoubtedly numerous colors that at one time weren't recognized by the associations but are now after breeders working to perfect the colors. I personally love the Tolbunt coloring probably more than any other Polish color and know this will be an APA standard color eventually.

 

[BGMatt]

There is still no standard for Tolbunt. A lot of breeders are splitting with GL Polish to expand the gene pool. The white on the crest is what made me guess Tolbunt split. I believe the Tolbunt color will be a work in progress for some time to come. The Tolbunt color was brought to the US not created here. But its evident it is not a stable color pattern yet!

Standard is on the Polish club website and was written back in 2005, that's where I got my info on it. Odd that people are splitting to Golden laced seeing as how the standard says lacing is a bad thing.

 

[Homestead girl]

Polish aren't supposed to come in all Black, I would say Crevecouer which has similar qualities, but can't tell from a picture.

Polish aren't supposed to come in all Black, I would say Crevecouer which has similar qualities, but can't tell from a picture.

Thought I would ask again thought the debate might be over. If any of you that were debating could look at my little guy and see if it looks like a polish or a Crevecoeur which is the correct spelling.

 

[BGMatt]

Thought I would ask again  thought the debate might be over.  If any of you that were debating  could look at my little guy and see if it looks like a polish or a Crevecoeur which is the correct spelling.

Check earlobes. Polish are supposed to have white and are narrower bodied. Crevecouers are supposed to have red ear lobes.