Political Ramblings

[hemet dennis]

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You seem to think that because someone doesn't agree with you about what should be done that they have no compassion.

Some people have died from eating in restaurants so I believe that all restaurants should be closed down for good and if you don't agree you have no compassion for those people that died.

 

[hemet dennis]

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The flu shots also give you immunity. And yes it's the weak that are more likely to die. 90% of the ones that die are the young and the old, but the others that wont die from it spread it to even more people when they get it.

 

[Q9]

You're probably right, newfoundland.

The most disturbing thing about this debate here and on CNN is the apparent lack of compassion amongst the no-law brigade for those young children and their families. It's very sad that people live in such a hardened and insensitive culture and don't seem to want it to change. There's been much written about the right to carry guns but nothing about the right of people to go about their lives free from the fear of being caught up in a shooting incident.

Perhaps the change towards something we take for granted is too much to expect.

And here we have the problem.

Your side believes it has a monopoly on compassion - that is not true. Nobody has a monopoly on compassion, we disagree on how to solve the problem of violence.

Case in point: it's "insensitive" to do anything pro-gun like a rally or gun show even over a month after the shooting, yet it's perfectly okay - even laudable - for Dianne Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg to charge in the day after the shooting, saying that Americans need to have their guns banned.

There's a double standard here. If it's not okay to politicize a shooting, then hold both sides to that standard. If it's okay to introduce or promote legislation immediately, then let both sides do it. Argue on merit, not on your personal perception of compassion.

Emotion is a terrible method for determining action on a state or national level. I will freely admit, on a personality test, I was ranked as extremely objective and detached. Things just don't shake me as much as they do others, so I get called heartless for being analytical and placing a clamp on my emotions when discussing solutions. Maybe it's a problem, but I'm inclined to see it as a benefit, as I can preserve my use of reason under the vast majority of circumstances, even when emotions run high.

Perhaps it is cold, but what it boils down to is cost versus benefit. What is the cost of a Feinstein-style ban on scary guns? The criminalizing of huge numbers of Americans, the deprivation of a great means of self-defense, the creation of a vast black market, yet another step down the slippery slope to full confiscation, and a dramatic and sweeping infringement on the right to bear arms. The "benefit" is that this specific class of firearm is marginally less likely to be used in a mass shooting.

We're on the same side, here. We want to prevent more deaths. Thai, I enjoy talking to you because I thought you realized that we aren't each others' enemies.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I can post study after study or video after video showing how gun control costs more lives than it saves. No point. The antis dont care about fact. All they care about is emotion. So lets talk emotion. You turned the news on an see a story, some of you a country away an got emotional. I on the other hand live in this country. I am on the streets here. I work 13 years with FEMA, GEMA, FDs, PDs, SOs an any other group I can find in 4 states. I have put more people in body bags than I care to remember. I see those faces in my sleep. I have been to shootings. I have been shot at. I have been shot. I have been to stabbing. I have been to beating. I have been to fires. I have been to tornadoes. I have been to hurricanes. I have been to plain crashes. I have been to thousands of wrecks. An on an on. I have been the one that had to tell people that there loved one is not coming home. I have been the one that had to tell people we did all we could do. Many times when it was my family an my friends. All these things you are watching on the news I have been there. I have done that. Turn the news off an come see reality. Then we can talk emotion.. Otherwise to me, your opinion does not have any meaning to me.

Now can we go back to facts an quit saying pro gun people dont care about those kids.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

The people of the US cant be more clear. 90%+ want no new gun laws an want to repeal some we have now...


The Blair Holt Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act (H.R. 34)

4% Support
96% Oppose


The Handgun Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 117)

6% Support
94% Oppose


The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act

6% Support
94% Oppose


H.R. 35: To restore safety to America’s schools.

94% Support
6% Oppose


H.R. 133: To repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and amendments to that Act.

93% Support
7% Oppose




The NRA Members' Gun Safety Act

6% Support
94% Oppose


Raising the age of legal handgun ownership to 21.

8% Support
92% Oppose


The Fix Gun Checks Act

14% Support
86% Oppose


Sen. Feinstein's New Version of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban

8% Support
92% Oppose

 

[chickened]

 

[hemet dennis]

The President talked about the debt ceiling again today. Did anyone else see it ? What did you think of what he said ?

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

He didn't talk about printing a 1 trillion dollar coin did he?

 

[hemet dennis]

He said we wont do that.

Here's some of what he did say.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama...RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

He said we wont do that.

Here's some of what he did say.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama...RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Coin or not after reading that, I have to go puke now....