Post Phoenix Pics Please

[onagadori]

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He's a beautiful bird for sure.

Shay, keep working on that project. We need some good blacks here. I'm working on them in both sizes and I know Amanda has some blacks coming along.

Keep breeding that gold birchen boy to the blackest hens. select the cleanest males and do it again. Never use a hen with any color to her, even if it's just a feather or two. By doing that, you'll get that birchen out pretty quick. I started with a very similar male from Cy's bantams and after just 1 cross this year, look to have some fairly clean males now. Crossed some to some of Toni's large fowl hens too and got some decent colored ones that way too. Seems the biggest problem is getting a true extended black, clean male. The pullets all see to come out decent. Stay at it though, it wont take long.

Neighbor came by today and asked me to come look at his longtails he hatched from my eggs. OH MY. Had a beautiful blue pullet from my black roo.. He is black and I think I will breed his daughter back to him to get the clean blacks. This is the only way I can see to come up with a true black. Else, we have to keep breeding hundreds and selecting the clean ones out to breed to. She is beautiful.. Multiple feathered, amazing tail line, and carrying a mottled gene from her father.. So, I guess, I am going to have blue, and black mottled pheonix in the long run too..Neighbor crossed andalusians with the phoenix roo he got from me.. All came out with some color on the roos. I would suggest f1 to f1 to clean those up.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Yep if you had access to good clean blues or dun, that would defiantely be the way to go. I hatched out some nice bantam duns this year that look to be all clean, they are still pretty young though, time will tell. They'll be headed over the best black girls next spring for sure if so and hopfully do the job that way too.
Cograts on the mottling too. That and laced I have always wanted to see in phoenix. I may have to get some of those from you once you get them going just to have the genes to work in to the bantams without the long route of an out cross to get it in them.

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

Here is the standard silver I used for my Goldens this year. Is this the correct tail/back posture for a phoenix?

Here is one of my silver bantams - His saddles in this picture are almost two feet. He had just lost a bunch due to getting tangled.

Black sounds really neat, I have been tracking some OEG's to work on black - I am working on a gold-laced too, but that barely got off the ground this year.

 

[onagadori]

dun.... ah ha....
Thanks for the idea.. Got a beautiful khaki sumatra hen..... hmmmmm. She may find her way into the black phoenix pen.. my splash red phoenix rooster is actually mottled. weird.. Comes from the yoko way back.. Been 12-15 generations back..

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep, that should work the same way as the blue pretty much. Plan on doing it again this year. Used on of the hens I hatched from some of Toni's eggs a few years ago on them this year to get some this year...looking good so far, Plan on doing it again next spring.

Yes extrodinaty fowl, he looks good to me.. very nice tail and saddles

 

[onagadori]

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Love the saddles, can't tell much about the tail. How long does it get? He is a good looking phoenix.. White is very nice.

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

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Love the saddles, can't tell much about the tail. How long does it get? He is a good looking phoenix.. White is very nice.

The bantam's tail grew only 2-3 feet then it would fall out almost constantly. His saddles were a little better. At their prime he has 15-20 long ones on either side.

One of my Silver standards was pure white with almost a blue/silver hue until he reached his second year, then his back feathers started to yellow and some area almost a yellow cuckoo. Any idea what this could be from?

 

[onagadori]

I don't know. I have had them do that. There are dif. kinds of rec. white. Some don't cover the red as well as others. I have a red ginger rooster who has some "faint barring that resembles cuckoo" in his hackles. I usually refer to this as fishbone, but It doesn't really ever breed out into true baring. Maybe he is barred, but probably a red duckwing under the white. Breed him to a red or silver hen and find out..

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

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Thanks, maybe I'll try that next year. All the birds have quit laying except 1 as of october due to the cold, but can't wait to start up again next year! I love the photo of the black you are working on by the way, he is an incredible bird!

 

[onagadori]

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Thanks.. I love him to pieces.. ONLY thing that puzzles me is that I get a few black chicks with yellow legs...? They are beautiful, but I can't figure that out unless it comes from the yoko in the background.. So a peacomb black yellow legged bird would be a black yokohama??? right?