Post Phoenix Pics Please

[onagadori]

just to throw one more nitch in the figuring, Toni's Lf blacks arent a true Ext black. That's why only the hens are solid black and the males have the red leakage. Even some of the pullets I have hatched have a touch of it. So that coupled with the Cy male adds a bit more to it all.

Like Amanda said, the easiest way to tell is take a silver duckwing and breed to your Cy white. Going off this particular line of blacks will give too many variables

-Extended Black-
"If a chicken has only E, it could look like a gold or silver birchen without the breast lacing, because on its own E doesn't make a totally black chicken!"
Genetics of Chicken Colours pg. 28 by Sigrid Van Dort- David Hancox & Friends

Leakage only means they are missing the proper additional black enhancers to create a full black bird.. Most of these enhancers could be present, but more than likely are not being bred f1 to f1 to make them homozygous and expressed. This is very important.. If you have an almost solid black rooster, you need to breed him back to his daughter to try and get the modifying melanizers to complete the color.. If anyone is breeding black and wants a solid bird, this is my recommendation. The next best would be brother to sister matings.. In theory any black bird can be made with proper melanizers on a birchen, eb (brown) or e+ (duckwing).. If you are missing the proper melanizers like some of the black lines are, you will have to cross back to a bird that has them. Because you can't manufacture melanizers that are not present.. This is why so many lines of blacks never produce good roosters... Extended black doesn't guarantee a black bird.. It just means it has black and white chick down..
here is a link to the pdf that will have the page on extended black for anyone working with them.
http://www.chickencolours.com/Chicken Colour Genetics Basics.pdf

I do think Aubrey is right about them being mixed with the cy male.. You now have possibly E/e+ chicks..

 

[mopargal1972]

I got a better look at the black chick and I noticed that it has dark brown on its head near its eyes. So, what is your advice? lol. Anyone have an extra SDW hen to lend me?

 

[onagadori]

Can you post a pic of the chick? Does it have white on it?

 

[mopargal1972]

My bator is still in lockdown. I will take pics as soon as I take them out. It should be tomorrow. I had 6 more pips when I last checked it this afternoon.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep a pic will help. Often on these I have, they'll hatch like that too though also get some ebc chicks out of them too. From what I have seen with these, the ones with reddish brown tint are usually the males.
Could be a birchen too though, pic will help clear it up once they are done.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

how do you keep their tails clean. i am trying to get one but before i do i want to make sure i have the correct living conditions for them.

fully cover pen is a must, raised waterers so they cant drag their tails into it. Thick hay or shaving bedding, high roosts so they dont drag in the poop under it at night, etc.
Best not to have pen mates in with them at all if you want a perfect tailed male. They'll step on them all day long and do more damage than anything. Nothing special is needed just to keep them, but if you want the best tails, you have to do these few things

 

[onagadori]

MY FAVORITE SILVER DUCKWING HEN

UPDATE ON MAHOGANY GINGER ROO..

UPDATE ON SPLASH RED ROO

DUCKWING SPLIT SPANGLED PULLET

LEMON BLUE GINGER/BIRCHEN SPANGLED ROO

BLUE GOLD DUCKWING PULLET Split PIED/MOTTLED

SPLASH ROO IN HIS BREEDING PEN (He is the dad to the splash red cockerel above)

MOTTLED SPLASH HEN

GOLDEN PENCILED PHOENIX CHICK (BIRCHEN BASE)

MOTTLED RED GINGER (MILLIE FLEUR)


MOTTLED RED DUCKWING (SPANGLED)

SPLIT MOTTLED LEMON BLUE GINGER COCKEREL (LEMON BLUE MILLIE FLEUR)


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[mopargal1972]

Ok everyone, here are the pics of the dark colored chicks. Did I mention that there are 2?.....lol.



Also, I looked for any spots on the white chicks. I cant find any. Maybe idk what to look for.

 

[onagadori]

CONGRATS.. BIRCHEN CHICKS! Kriner whites... Very beautiful birchens.. gold birchen. aka brown red.

 

[mopargal1972]

So what does this tell me about my white roo? Anything? Is this a good thing? I have seen other birchens on here and they are pretty. Do I still need SDW hen? And what do I do with her again if I do? Can you tell anything about my white chicks? Sorry about all the questions.