Post Phoenix Pics Please

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I wish I had one

well get you some haha

those nice sumatra you have will be jealous then!!

 

[onagadori]

But yes rapid growth, multiple feathering, and non molting are all traits to look for in great long tail birds. They don't all necessarily fit the book standard for phoenix, but as a breeder I prefer to breed for the best look in my opinion, and tail thickness and length are at the top of that list for me. All 3 of those can be applied to all 3 sections of the tail as well.

ditto!

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

I am not certain how fast my birds feather in compared to other lines but it it make any difference, I picked up one of the cockerels hatched this spring and his saddles are about 10" and his tail is about 18". I like the nice thin feathers for the saddle as well. Density is good, length is good, they all come from a hen that only molted once in 7 years so I am sure that is a factor in there as well.
I figure my birds are pure phoenix, I am just breeding them a different way than some other people that don't care (backyard breeders). Which reminds me, I picked up a rooster with amazing barring this weekend at the show. Sure, he is a plymouth rock but he has the great barring I need and a long back, long saddles, low tail, thin body, and a good neck. He is very much a horrible rep of his breed but will help me in making my own line of crele birds

 

[fowlgallery]

I was looking for photos of phoenix chickens and this thread is an absolute goldmine! I joined the site just to join this discussion...
I've been breeding phoenix for the last five or six years and having so much fun with them, doing the whole genetic tinkering thing. I started out with three chicks from ideal hatchery - a silver cockerel and two golden pullets - and have been breeding another generation every year. I had originally ordered all golden phoenix, but when they sent me a silver male I decided to make my own by crossing them for a couple of generations, and made it happen after two generations. Crossed them with cubalayas for a few years also, which made some insanely beautiful birds. Not doing this for show or anything, just my own ideal bird... Here are some photos of my birds -



golden male



phoenix have been the best moms out of any breed I've raised...



silver male






courting a welsummer hen...



sunbath in the garden...



One year I had a group of pullets who would hang out and graze in the cherry trees every morning...



cubalaya-phoenix cross, one of my favorite birds ever!



younger male



I keep these birds because I love using them as subject matter for my paintings...they are so elegant!
cheers!!

 

[Oldhound]

It's nice to see such well cared for and cherished birds. You are a very talented artist , lovely painting. Bill

 

[onagadori]

I was looking for photos of phoenix chickens and this thread is an absolute goldmine! I joined the site just to join this discussion...
I've been breeding phoenix for the last five or six years and having so much fun with them, doing the whole genetic tinkering thing. I started out with three chicks from ideal hatchery - a silver cockerel and two golden pullets - and have been breeding another generation every year. I had originally ordered all golden phoenix, but when they sent me a silver male I decided to make my own by crossing them for a couple of generations, and made it happen after two generations. Crossed them with cubalayas for a few years also, which made some insanely beautiful birds. Not doing this for show or anything, just my own ideal bird... Here are some photos of my birds -



golden male



phoenix have been the best moms out of any breed I've raised...



silver male






courting a welsummer hen...



sunbath in the garden...



One year I had a group of pullets who would hang out and graze in the cherry trees every morning...



cubalaya-phoenix cross, one of my favorite birds ever!



younger male



I keep these birds because I love using them as subject matter for my paintings...they are so elegant!
cheers!!

Yes, love the painting and also the cubalaya/phoenix. Gorgeous!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I was looking for photos of phoenix chickens and this thread is an absolute goldmine! I joined the site just to join this discussion...
I've been breeding phoenix for the last five or six years and having so much fun with them, doing the whole genetic tinkering thing. I started out with three chicks from ideal hatchery - a silver cockerel and two golden pullets - and have been breeding another generation every year. I had originally ordered all golden phoenix, but when they sent me a silver male I decided to make my own by crossing them for a couple of generations, and made it happen after two generations. Crossed them with cubalayas for a few years also, which made some insanely beautiful birds. Not doing this for show or anything, just my own ideal bird... Here are some photos of my birds -



golden male



phoenix have been the best moms out of any breed I've raised...



silver male






courting a welsummer hen...



sunbath in the garden...



One year I had a group of pullets who would hang out and graze in the cherry trees every morning...



cubalaya-phoenix cross, one of my favorite birds ever!



younger male



I keep these birds because I love using them as subject matter for my paintings...they are so elegant!
cheers!!

Glad to have you with us, sound like you're going to fit right in with all us. Amanda does some awesome painting of these guys and other breeds too. Check some of her stuff out, you two will bond quick over that I think. Both yall are really good!

Anyway welcome to BYC and the long tail folks, glad to have you

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I am not certain how fast my birds feather in compared to other lines but it it make any difference, I picked up one of the cockerels hatched this spring and his saddles are about 10" and his tail is about 18". I like the nice thin feathers for the saddle as well. Density is good, length is good, they all come from a hen that only molted once in 7 years so I am sure that is a factor in there as well.
I figure my birds are pure phoenix, I am just breeding them a different way than some other people that don't care (backyard breeders). Which reminds me, I picked up a rooster with amazing barring this weekend at the show. Sure, he is a plymouth rock but he has the great barring I need and a long back, long saddles, low tail, thin body, and a good neck. He is very much a horrible rep of his breed but will help me in making my own line of crele birds

Most all of the have the rapid feathering gene, it's pretty much a given in most, trick is to breed to see how long you can keep them growing that is if you want the more onagadori type birds. The very fine and thin feathering is where that comes into play that you mentioned as well, not just the saddles but the converts of the tail get mcuh thinner, almost fat saddle like in a normal phoenix, but it's in the converts, instead of the normal ribbon looking ones normal phoenix have. Either way is fine, just depends on which route you want to go. Really good true to standard phoenix, or more super mega tailed and more onagadori type traits, those are the ones all the other genes are more important in, the NM and Mutiple feathering and such.

That boy you mentioned though sounds like he'll be a darn good one if he keeps it up. I love lenght of corse but fullness to the over all rear of the bird is what I like most, that coupled with lenght make for a beautiful bird to me.

Congrats too on the barred bird to by the way. Who cares what he is, if he fits what you need for the project, use that joker up.
Just set back up my crele pen a couple weeks ago too. Got the flytiexphoenix roo from Toni in there now. Hope to get a few nice ones started on it before it gets cold here. I saw those you had a few years ago and fell in love with them, so that's where the idea came from way back then, just now getting around to really working on it though. It's about one of my favorite colors though, got it going in every one of my breeds now.

Good luck with it. If I can help you out some on it next spring just say the word.

 

[yo burrill]

Oh to live somewhere that doesnt get 5 feet of snow and -10 deg in the winter!!! You guys are so fortunate!!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

haha I complain when it's 40 here. I couldnt imagen all that. I've seen snow 3 times in my 37 years of life. Only stuck once over night, was gone by noon though the next morning