Seeing how I competed for my Zuchinni all darn summer with my girls I am going to just go with they do not have worms. They love Zuchinni The whole plant. 5 hens would nibble on them all day long. Let it get a little bigger, then nibble some more.
Pumpkin seeds for worming?
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My husband, who goes overboard on everything, planted about 2 acres of pumpkins (for the grandkids). Well, we plan to feed the cows and chickens pumpkins as long as we can store them. I will be curious to see how the girls like their first pumpkin. They will get one today for sure. And had wazine last week. And will get valbazen next week. Hopefully all the bases will be covered.
If your birds get Valbazen, there is no need for any other chemical wormer. It gets everything, and gets them all safely because of how it kills the worms.
I do not worm my birds on a regular basis, never have. First time I ever wormed them was when they were two years old when I saw a worm in one rooster's poop *he was in a small flock that didn't free range like the main one did*.
Free ranging birds are less susceptible to worm overload than penned birds. I recently wormed all the flocks with invermectin pour-on after this brutal summer because it seemed a perfect time to do so--egg production was way down and some had gotten over fungal infections from the prolonged hot/humid weather and all the wetting down of pens to keep them from keeling over dead from heat exhaustion. I probably will not worm them again for another full year unless there is a specific reason to do so.
I do not worm my birds on a regular basis, never have. First time I ever wormed them was when they were two years old when I saw a worm in one rooster's poop *he was in a small flock that didn't free range like the main one did*.
Free ranging birds are less susceptible to worm overload than penned birds. I recently wormed all the flocks with invermectin pour-on after this brutal summer because it seemed a perfect time to do so--egg production was way down and some had gotten over fungal infections from the prolonged hot/humid weather and all the wetting down of pens to keep them from keeling over dead from heat exhaustion. I probably will not worm them again for another full year unless there is a specific reason to do so.
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I guess all this is like when people argue with what right to use Alternative Medicine Practices VS Coventional Medicine Practices.
Me personally, I go for the natural/alternative approach with me and all my animals--if it doesn't work-THEN I will use the coventional products that are full of chemicals.
So for worming I will use raw pumpkins seeds, etc....and if it doesn't work for them, and I do see worms, then I'll use the stuff that was made from chemicals.
I guess all this is like when people argue with what right to use Alternative Medicine Practices VS Coventional Medicine Practices.
Me personally, I go for the natural/alternative approach with me and all my animals--if it doesn't work-THEN I will use the coventional products that are full of chemicals.
So for worming I will use raw pumpkins seeds, etc....and if it doesn't work for them, and I do see worms, then I'll use the stuff that was made from chemicals.
If you use these methods and the worms are expelled....what is tokeep the chicken from rummaging around and eating those same worms again?
I have at least 1 infected with an almost translucent worm that is like a blob but stretches out. Found it in some droppings. This was in the yard with the free rangers. over 50% of them were purchased at 3+ months from someone else. No sign in the penned birds.
I have Ivomec, but cannot remember the withdrawl for meat and eggs. How long after treatment before we can eat the eggs or meat?
I have at least 1 infected with an almost translucent worm that is like a blob but stretches out. Found it in some droppings. This was in the yard with the free rangers. over 50% of them were purchased at 3+ months from someone else. No sign in the penned birds.
I have Ivomec, but cannot remember the withdrawl for meat and eggs. How long after treatment before we can eat the eggs or meat?
Czech's_chicks :
If you use these methods and the worms are expelled....what is tokeep the chicken from rummaging around and eating those same worms again?
I have at least 1 infected with an almost translucent worm that is like a blob but stretches out. Found it in some droppings. This was in the yard with the free rangers. over 50% of them were purchased at 3+ months from someone else. No sign in the penned birds.
I have Ivomec, but cannot remember the withdrawl for meat and eggs. How long after treatment before we can eat the eggs or meat?
Are you sure that was a worm? I found something like that in some poop and the consensus was that it wasn't a worm at all, but some tissue from the gizzard or something along those lines (wish I could remember-will have to see if I can find the thread).
Withdrawal is up to you. Most use 2 weeks. There is no "accepted" withdrawal since it is an entirely off-label use. I don't even do two weeks, personally, but I make sure the eggs don't go in a carton that anyone other than my DH and myself would get.
ETA: Here is the thing that my rooster pooped out--could be cecal lining, I was told. Thought it was a cocoon, ick. They poop out all sorts of stuff, tissue and the like, that aren't worms.
If you use these methods and the worms are expelled....what is tokeep the chicken from rummaging around and eating those same worms again?
I have at least 1 infected with an almost translucent worm that is like a blob but stretches out. Found it in some droppings. This was in the yard with the free rangers. over 50% of them were purchased at 3+ months from someone else. No sign in the penned birds.
I have Ivomec, but cannot remember the withdrawl for meat and eggs. How long after treatment before we can eat the eggs or meat?
Are you sure that was a worm? I found something like that in some poop and the consensus was that it wasn't a worm at all, but some tissue from the gizzard or something along those lines (wish I could remember-will have to see if I can find the thread).
Withdrawal is up to you. Most use 2 weeks. There is no "accepted" withdrawal since it is an entirely off-label use. I don't even do two weeks, personally, but I make sure the eggs don't go in a carton that anyone other than my DH and myself would get.
ETA: Here is the thing that my rooster pooped out--could be cecal lining, I was told. Thought it was a cocoon, ick. They poop out all sorts of stuff, tissue and the like, that aren't worms.
valbazen is not the same as ivomec
If you worm with pumpkins the best time to do it is after the ground is freezing less chance fore reinfestation at least until the ground thaws again.
If you worm with pumpkins the best time to do it is after the ground is freezing less chance fore reinfestation at least until the ground thaws again.
Cythia........I used to be on a Diesel Truck site that was the same. Somebody would ask a qestion, get an answer and then argue for two weeks about it. Seemed as though the new boys to diesels learned to change oil and they were diesel experts. I gave up and just looked after my own truck.
Chickens look to be somewhat the same. I/m just a babe is Christ. I'm a babe with chickens too. Learn everyday.
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Chickens look to be somewhat the same. I/m just a babe is Christ. I'm a babe with chickens too. Learn everyday.
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After reading the reason for using Wazine first, I shudder to think how many worms a chicken would have to have for that to be the proper way to go. Wouldn't you have to see the worms in the poop already for it to be so bad that this is the right treatment, i.e. Wazine then Ivermectin?
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Yep. And the reason it gets argued about over and over like that is that People believe what they want to believe and often nothing can change their minds. So I for the most part ignore "post the studies" things. Though if someone does, I invariably find them interesting because I like to learn.
Yep. And the reason it gets argued about over and over like that is that People believe what they want to believe and often nothing can change their minds. So I for the most part ignore "post the studies" things. Though if someone does, I invariably find them interesting because I like to learn.
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