Question on GMO feed

[Summerlove]

No one has ever proven there are any harmful effects caused by GMO crops.

Because they haven't done proper research...

 

[Summerlove]

Obama signed the 'Monsanto Protection Act' Tuesday, March 26, 2013

 

[Summerlove]

Actual facts? like the fact that there is gmo in the product or isn't gmo in the product?

How about letting Americans have the facts? If gmo were really safe you could wait for the people who chose to buy it eat it for awhile then study the effects. But no no... That would be freedom of choice. We can't allow freedom, can we? In fact the average American doesn't even know that gmo's exist, let alone that they are in 90% of the things that they eat. Ya, thats an "informed" decision right there.

You may want people to buy your product, and that's fine. But you won't escape the effects. Even now they are reformulating pesticides to contain biohazardous rRNA particles. What are the effects? No one knows. But it will be rubber stamped by the FDA. You go along with tyranny and it only gets stronger, it does not go away.

 

[res]

Until the population of the world drastically declines, or the majority of the population learn to feed themselves (pretty impossible in an urban setting) then GMO and pesticides/herbicides are going to be a requirement. It is not logistically possible to feed the entire population using 100% organic/non-GMO processes.

Organic may be great in the minds of some people, but it means a high percentage of loss to the grower. The yield off an organic crop field is going to be much less than a non-organic field. Add to that the cost that organic demands, and most people will not be able to afford to purchase the organic products.

 

[Spifflove]

Until the population of the world drastically declines, or the majority of the population learn to feed themselves (pretty impossible in an urban setting) then GMO and pesticides/herbicides are going to be a requirement. It is not logistically possible to feed the entire population using 100% organic/non-GMO processes.

Organic may be great in the minds of some people, but it means a high percentage of loss to the grower. The yield off an organic crop field is going to be much less than a non-organic field. Add to that the cost that organic demands, and most people will not be able to afford to purchase the organic products.

That is a very well reasoned argument. But it is based on propaganda [or if you prefer the term spin] put out by the corporate controlled media. The population of the west is dramatically declining. We are not seeing it in this country because of massive immigration. But the birth rate of all Western countries indiginous population is well below the replacement rate of 2.2. For example it is 1.1 in Germany and 1.5 in Japan.

It is very true that not all people can afford eat organic. I don't buy the argument that we need gmo though. If we started using natural gas we could solve the problem of food by eliminating ethanol corn crops and balance our national budget at the same time. That will has not yet happened because oil corporations have hijacked our green movement.

 

[Cindy in PA]

Until the population of the world drastically declines, or the majority of the population learn to feed themselves (pretty impossible in an urban setting) then GMO and pesticides/herbicides are going to be a requirement. It is not logistically possible to feed the entire population using 100% organic/non-GMO processes.

Organic may be great in the minds of some people, but it means a high percentage of loss to the grower. The yield off an organic crop field is going to be much less than a non-organic field. Add to that the cost that organic demands, and most people will not be able to afford to purchase the organic products.

Maybe we should try the "less" food & more real content in the food. Just because you can produce masses of food, doesn't mean it is really good food.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

Remember this about GMO free chicken food. GMO feed (if there is such a thing) has very likely been raised with the aid of some very nasty insecticides. There are no or almost no insecticides of any kind used on GMO grain crops and no poisons are produced by GMO crops. The thing in GMO corn that protects it from the European corn borer is a fragment of a naturally occurring uni-cell organism that is living in the dirt beneath you chickens' feet even as I type this.

It's like everything else in life, yous pays your money and yous takes your chances.

Utsi the 5,300 year old Austrian Ice Man was found with an undigested meal in his transverse colon. His last meal included bread made from einkorn, an ancient type of wheat grown and eaten by humans before we developed the technology to bake soft bread by making it rise with yeast and gluten. So over the last 5,300 years the wheat we eat has been extensively modified by humans with or without the help of gene splicing technology.

FDR's former Vice President and the 1948 Socialist Presidential candidate Henry A Wallace developed the first successful hybrid corn seeds almost 100 years ago. Wallace's hybrid seed corn proved so much better than the seed corn that the farmers saved from the previous years harvest and re-planted the next Spring, that despite low crop prices, despite the Dust Bowl, and despite the Great Depression by 1940 most of the corn produced in America were hybrid corn varieties.

GMO technology is the new hybrid seed corn. Hybrid seed corn has led to an increase of 1,000% or better in corn production. Whether GMOs result in an increase in food production of this magnitude is besides the point. GMOs have already resulted in a massive reduction in the use of most pesticides.

 

[pbjls]

Remember this about GMO free chicken food. GMO feed (if there is such a thing) has very likely been raised with the aid of some very nasty insecticides. There are no or almost no insecticides of any kind used on GMO grain crops and no poisons are produced by GMO crops. The thing in GMO corn that protects it from the European corn borer is a fragment of a naturally occurring uni-cell organism that is living in the dirt beneath you chickens' feet even as I type this.

It's like everything else in life, yous pays your money and yous takes your chances.

Utsi the 5,300 year old Austrian Ice Man was found with an undigested meal in his transverse colon. His last meal included bread made from einkorn, an ancient type of wheat grown and eaten by humans before we developed the technology to bake soft bread by making it rise with yeast and gluten. So over the last 5,300 years the wheat we eat has been extensively modified by humans with or without the help of gene splicing technology.

FDR's former Vice President and the 1948 Socialist Presidential candidate Henry A Wallace developed the first successful hybrid corn seeds almost 100 years ago. Wallace's hybrid seed corn proved so much better than the seed corn that the farmers saved from the previous years harvest and re-planted the next Spring, that despite low crop prices, despite the Dust Bowl, and despite the Great Depression by 1940 most of the corn produced in America were hybrid corn varieties.

GMO technology is the new hybrid seed corn. Hybrid seed corn has led to an increase of 1,000% or better in corn production. Whether GMOs result in an increase in food production of this magnitude is besides the point. GMOs have already resulted in a massive reduction in the use of most pesticides.

several things here.

1. hybrid and gmo are not the same thing. crossing two similar plants and selecting for preferd traits is much different than splicing genes from two radically (sp) different organisims.
2.you pay your money you take your chance. well I should get to choose what chance I take by getting to know what is in the product.
3.wa st released a study that shows gmo HT varities (the first released )have cause resistence in weeds and an increase in herbicides used.
4. while BT crops have so far shown a small decrease in pesticide use, it still remains a large concern that the pests will catch up just as the weeds have done.
5.there has not been a release of the studies on how the modifications will mutate as subsiquent (sp) generations of gmo seeds are used. there is evidence that this could also be a major issue.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Because they haven't done proper research...

They've had decades to do it, and yet there is still no proof.
Why not just accept reality?

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

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It's been around for decades now, and .no one has shown any REAL proof of harmful effects.
Lots of people have claimed it's harmful, but not one of them has offered repeatable data to confirm it