Question on GMO feed

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote: Who's injecting Bt into animals?
It's an insecticide that kills mostly caterpillars

CAPITALIZING got your attention, so it served it's purpose.
What looks "foolish" is some of the things some consider "proof"

 

[Michael Apple]

Think about it what is absolute about "smaller?" Smaller than... what? A cave man? An h3 driving, air at 68 F in Florida man? I would hope we would strive to have as small of a carbon footprint as possible within our means. All orders of life on earth have some footprint.

Deflecting from the context to which the commentary was directed won't help you.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote: LOL
You're funny, considering your "Monsanto Protection Act" post

 

[Michael Apple]

LOL
You're funny, considering your "Monsanto Protection Act" post

Supporting the popularized notion that there are no health dangers attributed to GMO would be funny if Captain Crunch said it. What would be humorous is if you worked for a government agency. That would explain quite a bit.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

Quote:

I can assure you that any lack of autism in the Amish population is not a result of these hard working people shunning GMO crops and farming practices. The proof is below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XHUhF03S2I
This video disproves any claim that implies that the Amish do not employ GMO crops in their farming practices. I do not expect anyone reading this who is opposed to GMOs to look at the facts but if you are interested in the truth, especally about the Amish’s view on GMOs it is presented at about minutes 30:00 to 35:00 if you wish to leap forward to it, go for it. Any claim that suggests that the Amish rejects GMO theology and that this somehow protects them from autism is another case of slinging all the mud and misinformation that you can up against the wall and hoping that some of it sticks instead of sliding back into the muck.

The only religous groups I am aware of who reject things like polio vaccine is the Taliban and a few fringe groups who also practice things like handling poisonous serpents. I refuse to dignify anti vaccine ideas with any more comments except to point out that the Amish population is not a reservoir of active smallpox or even polio infections and that there must be a reason that these two diseases are not rife among the Amish.

 

[The Chickeneer]

Quote: Tested and approved by whom? Lying, scheming and untrustworthy associations like Monsanto the USDA and FDA. I'ts all about the money for them, and you can't argue that. So consequently they will tell the people what they wan't to hear, and lie to cover up their messes.

DDT was "tested and approved" people sprayed around their house like it was febreeze, my family used to spray it on everyone's hair after working in the fields to kill any bugs, and we also thought it was perfectly harmless, sprayed it everywhere......

The fact is these companies just wan't money, so they target uneducated people who don't know anything about food politics, farming or that any of it is even important, and laugh all the way to the bank knowing they have made suckers of those uneducated people.

Weather GMO foods are harmless or not (which I believe they are), what Monsanto is doing politically is not right, and I would never buy any of their products knowing that I am supporting a company that sues people for "stealing" their patent seeds and lies too much to be noted as anything near trustworthy. They have a gigantic monopoly over many seeds in the world, and they don't care what your opinion is or mine for that matter, as long as their pockets are full of money, and will try to demolish any and all competition (organic or not) so they can keep the money for themselves. The USDA and FDA help them out, so I don't trust them at all either.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

... I suppose it is just succumbing to fantasy that Obama signed provisions protecting Bio-tech companies like Monsanto from litigation suits based upon possible health risks due to consuming their products.
Link here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57576835/critics-slam-obama-for-protecting-monsanto/

All this legislation accomplishes is to allow companies like Monsanto and others to conduct the RESEARCH that the antis so piously claim that they want conducted. Then when they get their wish for more RESEARCH they howl bloody murder. This law just enables a bio tech company to conduct research on GM crops by actually planting GM crops without first having to fight every slimy trial lawyer out to feather his or her nest at the expense of the Federal Government.

The FDA, USDA, EPA etc are the ones really being sued in most of these kinds of cases, not Monsanto. The Federal Government is being sued for APPROVING RESEARCH on GMOs allegedly without first conducting sufficient in house RESEARCH into the effects GM RESEARCH will have on the environment. The effect as well as the intent is to halt all RESEARCH so that the antis can complain about a lack of research.

In these kinds of cases win lose or draw Federal Law mandates that the law firm filing suit gets paid regardless of the outcome of the trial. The payees are the USDA or FDA or EPA etc not Monsanto. These law suits have become such a feeding frenzy for trial lawyers that the sharks are now in charge of the chum bucket not scientist.

This clip is from an old matinee short feature movie, but most anti-GM rhetoric results either from or in thinking like that displayed in this Maw and Paw Kettle video.

If you are to young to remember Maw and Paw Kettle, you best take a look.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

... I suppose it is just succumbing to fantasy that Obama signed provisions protecting Bio-tech companies like Monsanto from litigation suits based upon possible health risks due to consuming their products.
Link here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57576835/critics-slam-obama-for-protecting-monsanto/

All this legislation accomplishes is to allow companies like Monsanto and others to conduct the RESEARCH that the antis so piously claim that they want conducted. Then when they get their wish for more RESEARCH they howl bloody murder. This law just enables a bio tech company to conduct research on GM crops by actually planting GM crops without first having to fight every slimy trial lawyer out to feather his or her nest at the expense of the Federal Government.

The FDA, USDA, EPA etc are the ones really being sued in most of these kinds of cases, not Monsanto. The Federal Government is being sued for APPROVING RESEARCH on GMOs allegedly without first conducting sufficient in house RESEARCH into the effects GM RESEARCH will have on the environment. The effect as well as the intent is to halt all RESEARCH so that the antis can complain about a lack of research.

In these kinds of cases win lose or draw Federal Law mandates that the law firm filing suit gets paid regardless of the outcome of the trial. The payees are the USDA or FDA or EPA etc not Monsanto. These law suits have become such a feeding frenzy for trial lawyers that the sharks are now in charge of the chum bucket not scientist.

This clip is from an old matinee short feature movie, but most anti-GM rhetoric results either from or in thinking like that displayed in this Maw and Paw Kettle video.

If you are to young to remember Maw and Paw Kettle, you best take a look.

 

[hemet dennis]

How could anyone think something that kills bug or plants would be good to spray on themselves ?

 

[Cindy in PA]

LOL
Are you having problems with insects in YOUR garden not dying from BT?
If not, why does it matter TO YOU?

Maybe, just MAYBE, they are introducing 2-4-D resistant corn because 2-4-D kills BROADLEAF WEEDS better than Roundup

Are you having problems with YOUR Roundup not killing weeds?
If not, why does it matter TO YOU?

2-4-D isn't a "harsher herbicide".
It just kills different kinds of weeds better

And what does ANY of the above have to do with GMO's being "harmful"?

What concerns me is NOT limited to my couple of acres. These things reach the water supply and food supply. BT corn is making resistant worms. Over use of BT takes it's use away from organic gardeners & farmers. We were told that Round Up ready crops were necessary so farmers could give up more toxic chemicals like 2-4-D. Now we are making 2-4-D ready crops??? Takes away the biggest argument for RR crops and GMOs. I don't know what all this genetic engineering means for us in the future, neither do you & neither does Monsanto & the like. Monsanto just wants to make as much as possible while it can. The amount of time GMO crops have been out is really limited in the scheme of things, so it's is impossible to know their effects. As far as GMOs being harmful, anything that goes into the environment bercause of them (like more Round up, etc.) makes them more harmful in my opinion.