Question on Wheaten genetics

[chickenmomma16]

I have Wheaten Ameraucanas. I hatched a few lighter hackle/saddle color cockerels and I believe I have a hen hiding silver.
What would this be called? Silver Blue Wheaten? Anomaly? What would this look like in adult feathering? Anyone know? I’m just curious about the looks. He will be getting the boot out before he finishes growing.

Another question, I will be keeping the hen these chicks hatched from another year possibly, so how could I set up test matings in the future to weed out anymore silver carriers in her progeny?

Top is the guy in question

Right is the guy in question

I can get more pictures if needed

 

[Amer]

Well, a hen couldn't carry silver, due to the sexlinked nature of the gene.
But a cock could, of course then he would technically be golden.
And to produce a silver male chick the mother would also have to be silver.
I'm wonder if it may be a random silver mutation.

I wouldn't worry about it popping up since silver is a dominant gene. As long as you don't breed him it shouldn't show up.

 

[chickenmomma16]

Well, a hen couldn't carry silver, due to the sexlinked nature of the gene.
But a cock could, of course then he would technically be golden.
And to produce a silver male chick the mother would also have to be silver.
I'm wonder if it may be a random silver mutation.

I wouldn't worry about it popping up since silver is a dominant gene. As long as you don't breed him it shouldn't show up.

Hmmm... That’s all good to know. I messaged the original breeder and she had it popping up in her flock too. I have 2 Blue Wheaten cockerels with the mutation with the same mother. The mother and father are Blue Wheatens also and look normal. Are we going to chalk this up to a mutation that crops up in this line?

Picture of the mother and father of my mutants.

 

[chickenmomma16]

One thing that was noted in the breeders notes was the cock looked like a pullet for a while when he was a chick. Not sure if that has anything to do with him throwing Silver mutants.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Hmmm... That’s all good to know. I messaged the original breeder and she had it popping up in her flock too. I have 2 Blue Wheaten cockerels with the mutation with the same mother. The mother and father are Blue Wheatens also and look normal. Are we going to chalk this up to a mutation that crops up in this line?

Picture of the mother and father of my mutants. View attachment 1849362View attachment 1849363

It's not a mutation. Your hen looks like she's blue silver wheaten (also called blue salmon). All of her sons will be split for the silver gene, so will be golden.

 

[chickenmomma16]

It's not a mutation. Your hen looks like she's blue silver wheaten (also called blue salmon). All of her sons will be split for the silver gene, so will be golden.

Educate me, how can you tell?

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Educate me, how can you tell?

She's a lot lighter and is missing the red that the other hen has. If you look up "salmon faverolles" (salmon = silver wheaten) you'll find their color is very similar to your hen. Besides, it's highly unlikely that a silver mutation would just pop up in several chicks, since it's a dominant trait, and your rooster is obviously not split.

 

[chickenmomma16]

She's a lot lighter and is missing the red that the other hen has. If you look up "salmon faverolles" (salmon = silver wheaten) you'll find they look very similar to your hen in color. Besides, it's highly unlikely that a silver mutation would just pop up in several chicks, since it's a dominant trait, and your rooster is obviously not split.

The other hen in the background is a Gold sex-link cross Easter Egger. This particular hen is a common Wheaten coloration. The SOP calls for Light Wheaten - Light Creamy Wheaten. Here is my other hen for comparison

Edited to add:
I can definitely see the similarities in the male blue Salmon Faverolles to what’s happening to my blue Wheatens. This is quite fascinating!

 

[chickenmomma16]

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So the Sons that look fine will be split and the ones that look Blue salmon/salmon are Blue Salmon/Salmon. Correct?
What about her daughters? Will they be carriers? It’s obviously going to be harder to tell who is what with the females.

 

[Amer]

It's not a mutation. Your hen looks like she's blue silver wheaten (also called blue salmon). All of her sons will be split for the silver gene, so will be golden.

I was about to say this.

So the Sons that look fine will be split and the ones that look Blue salmon/salmon are Blue Salmon/Salmon. Correct?
What about her daughters? Will they be carriers? It’s obviously going to be harder to tell who is what with the females.

The sons that look fine will be wheaten and also they will not belong to her. The salmon sons will belong to her.
The daughters of hers will not be carriers, they only inherit the gene from their father.