O.K., I am going to try it. My last 2 hatches were not exactly great, so I might as well try. My questions are: 1) do you recommend a cardboard carton over styrofoam? 2)do you cut out some of the carton at the bottom for air circulation? 3)do you incubate in them the entire time?My turner is not working and I've been elevating alternate sides anyway,so I don't think that would be a problem. Thanks all.