Thanks for the reply Pharmer Cathy. btw - I think I have to learn about the independent thing. This girl sure is it! Like today, she was on the other side of the horse pasture, laying down pulling at a clump of grass. I call her to "Come" and she looks up....but goes right back to pulling the clump of grass. I had to walk halfway across the pasture to get her to realize I meant it. I even resorted to the mean voice. Once she started toward me I gave her a verbal "good girl" and turned and walked toward where I wanted her. I was shocked as all get out that she continued to follow me. Once we got to where I was to begin with, I stopped and petted her. Boy oh boy is this different then my Aussie.