**Rant** TSC and the NAIS!!!!!!!!

[Boyd]

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Yup. According to the gov'ment we aren't supposed to be processing our own food here... so I will publically say I'm an illegal on the hook for doing about a hundred quail this year.... and probably too late to raise a batch of meaties... oh well, there's next spring

 

[Bookworm chick]

Good for you. I never give out my phone number. Not for cash or credit card purchases. When they ask for my phone number, I just flat out say "no, I don't give it out".

 

[kagedgoddess]

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well i agree with ya, But on the same hand, it also keeps the Big manufactorers cleaner and whatnot. if youdont Like the laws try to change them. you cant just go around thinking YOU are somehow exempt from them cuz you're "doing good works" and I agree that it would be a perfect world if we could all just go down to the local farm and buy milk from cows that werent treated badly and fed hormones and antibiotics, but Again. SOME ppl Dont care about that and want everything regulated. We on this board are Obviously Not those types. But if you are going to SELL your products then Obey the laws Or fight to have them changed, you still have to obey them tho.

Wifezilla wrote:
Exactly. It is my choice. Read "Everything I want to do is Illegal" by Joel Salatin if you really want to understand how the inspection process works (or doesn't work actually), and how a processor vs farm vs retail location definitions get totally twisted by regulators.

There are serious obstacles for a farmer who wants to process his own pork. Somehow driving across a state (or several states) and sending it to a very crowded feed lot with a bunch of other pigs from all over is supposed to be healthier for us.

i have read this, and i agree with you too wifezilla, BUt again, we should work to change those laws. it is stupid and ment for big companies, not little farmers, so we should ALL be trying to get laws in place for "homestead" exemption and whatnot. it is ALSO not very fair to the ppl who do things properly and therefore make LESS of a profit to have their business undermined by ppl who feel the rules just shouldnt apply to them.
we have a farm nearby that sells pork and buffalo products Legally, so why should HE have to follow the rules and Not double H? that is MY point, and why double h is a terrible example of your point.

 

[Mojo Chick'n]

You can sell raw milk to people off the farm - if it is sold as "for animal consumption only". You can legally feed it to your pets, the cat, dog, pigs, chickens, etc...

I usually get asked my phone number at TSC, because I am tax exempt, and that is how they pull up our record to load it into the computer. I have never bought live animals there, though, just farm supplies and fencing. (a couple of generators and a wood stove, feed dishes, rarely feed - I usually buy that locally...) After seeing their "chicks in a bin" and how they mixed the meaties in with layers and had ducks thrown into the chick bin as well, and had no water or food in there for them... well, I passed on the TSC chicks.

There were a couple of ladies there when I was in buying my woodstove and they were picking out chicks... meat chicks -- they hadn't a clue what they were. They wanted layers, and the staff had no clue which were which either. I helped them pick out the non-meaties.

meri

 

[Reinbeau]

Raw milk rules vary from state to state, what's true in Kentucky isn't true up here in Massachusetts.

 

[Mojo Chick'n]

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True, hadn't thought about that... sometimes I forget that I'm not the Center of the Universe

meri

 

[GrayDragon]

Mojo Chick'n :

You can sell raw milk to people off the farm - if it is sold as "for animal consumption only". You can legally feed it to your pets, the cat, dog, pigs, chickens, etc...

You can also bypass the entire issue fairly quickly in many areas.

'In return for your $5 donation, we would like to gift you with this jug of raw milk'.


It's allowed in most states, but be warned that it is outlawed in some areas on the county or city level.​

 

[Blackbird]

The problem with donations, is just that, not everyone will always want to give a donation. Lol. The other problem is that in my state the law says you can't have a 'regular' customer. Yes, a few of these laws aren't hard to get around, but they are so silly in the first place.

Who said any of us weren't trying to get our laws changed? Who said I wasn't obeying the laws?

More often than not large manufacturers are the ones breaking or not even following some of those laws. How many cases of ecoli and salmonella have there been that killed how many people? People think these tests, laws, and regulations will protect them. NOT!

 

[meriruka]

I only go to TSC for things my feed store doesn't have...

I went in one day, checked out some fencing and picked up dog harness, carried it to the counter.

Sales clerk: This harness doesn't have a tag, go get one with a tag."

Off I go for a tagged harness then get back in line.

Me:"I also need a roll of 100' long, 6" high galvanized wire fence"
SC: "Go and get the tag off the fence."
Me: "The SKU is in the little book you have right here"
SC: "Look it up"
ME: "How about I make you a sandwich and you can sit here and eat it while I ring up my stuff & take care of all the other customers?"
SC: "How rude!"

NAIS just seems like one more invasion of privacy. But everyone know so much about you already......where you live, what $ you earn, what you buy if you use a credit card, where you travel if you have easypass, where you are if you have a GPS, how many guns, kids and dogs you have, and if you use shopper cards to save $, even what you eat. Not to mention everything you look at on the internet.
I pulled up a satellite pic of my road & saw my neighbor about to enter his greenhouse. What if he was being amorous with his wife on his (completely secluded from the road) property?

 

[Reinbeau]

Just because our privacy is already invaded is no reason to let the government have even more control over our lives.