My husband didn't seem shocked. He grew up on a farm and said rats are everywhere. He, too, mentioned the bait so we will also give that a try. I am worried about rats carrying diseases, biting my girls even though we have a rooster. He delivers apples and mentioned that these grocery stores he goes to have "black boxes" that are used for rats. The poison is enclosed. So if he can get some of them, we'll try those.